EMP proof generator heads and the ST models

[WStayton]

rcavictim:

  Good, no ECELLENT point about the neutral disconnect!

  I've got to get NYSEG out to look at the whole mess before they will turn it on, so I can ask, in a round about way, if I can disconnet the nuetral when I'm not hooked to the net . . . but I have been known to be a criminal before, so a negative answer doesn't necessarily rule it out!! <grin>

  If I have the 3/4" (5/8", something like that!) copper bar driven in the ground 48" like they specify for grounding, that should satisfy everything IF I'm completely disconnected from the power company, no???

sailawayrb:

  You say:  " I truly pity the fool that tries to make a go of this on the US. . . " 

  I agree that they will probably make Osama look hale and hearty when we get done with them . . . BUT, these terrorist types seem to think that it is an "honor" to be splattered by the US military, so I don't think that will do much to stop them when/if they get a big enough pile of $$ to buy a cheap, tired ship and put an EMP weapon aboard . . . I imagine that we "look" for this type of stuff that is wending its way towards us, but I don't think that you need a real big ship to launch a rocket from near the coast to high enough to make a BIG EMP "splash".  I'm pretty sure that the only things that have protected us, so far, is that most of the nut jobs are relatively poor and technologically challenged - the latter being easy to understand, if you have spent your life leading a camel across places we wouldn't pee on!  <grin>

  I hope that our technology keeps advancing enough to keep us one jump ahead of any "nuts with money" but I am afraid that, sooner or later, its gonna happen.

  That's my opinion, which is worth EXACTLY what you paid for it!

Regardz,

Wayne Stayton

[sailawayrb]

sailawayrb:

  You say:  " I truly pity the fool that tries to make a go of this on the US. . . " 

  I agree that they will probably make Osama look hale and hearty when we get done with them . . . BUT, these terrorist types seem to think that it is an "honor" to be splattered by the US military, so I don't think that will do much to stop them when/if they get a big enough pile of $$ to buy a cheap, tired ship and put an EMP weapon aboard . . . I imagine that we "look" for this type of stuff that is wending its way towards us, but I don't think that you need a real big ship to launch a rocket from near the coast to high enough to make a BIG EMP "splash".  I'm pretty sure that the only things that have protected us, so far, is that most of the nut jobs are relatively poor and technologically challenged - the latter being easy to understand, if you have spent your life leading a camel across places we wouldn't pee on!  <grin>

  I hope that our technology keeps advancing enough to keep us one jump ahead of any "nuts with money" but I am afraid that, sooner or later, its gonna happen.

  That's my opinion, which is worth EXACTLY what you paid for it!

Regardz,

Wayne Stayton

I kind of view the camel jockey terrorists as horse fly's...more of a nuisance than a significant threat.  Sure, if you are personally affected, it is certainly a personal tragedy and worthy of a national reckoning.  However, we lose more people as a nation to drunk driving than we lost in 9/11 or the subsequent war casualties combined.  Sure, there is little doubt that some religious fanatic or similar nut job will eventually cause nuclear events (likely dirty bombs) in some of our cities.  However, in the big picture, that's not really all that significant either.  Japan recovered from our WW2 nuclear reckoning and they will recover from their recent earthquake/tsunami/nuclear misfortune too.  In some ways, 9/11 was one of the best things to happen to us...like Pearl Harbor, it woke us up.  Our military technology and weaponry has advanced more in the past 5 years than in the previous 50 years combined...wish I could share more.  I suspect that the smart money has already figured this out and may be responsible for some of the political changes sweeping this planet.  I really do pity the nut job that places the wrong bet...but I sort of look forward to it too.  At some point the camel jockeys will also experience a woman's liberation movement and that will certainly curtail their jihadist adventures.

Bob B.

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[WStayton]

deeiche:

  Um, I thought that the Chinese had a program to obtain out technology now . . . called "THEFT", no?  <smile>

  Why pay for it when they can steal it, or least most of it, for nothing more than a few bowls of rice a day for their agents - and they just write them off when they get caught!!!

  They do seem willing to buy/lease small pieces of our technology, but maybe that's just to keep us coming to the trough???

  As you can tell, I would be a miserable failure as an international diplomat, in that I pretty much subscribe to the Curtis-LeMay/Barry-Goldwater school which says "Nuke 'em till they glow!"  <grin>  (Truthfully, I'm a little more moderate than that, but only a little!)

sailawayrb:

  If the terrorists stick to their present methodology of taking out small targets in an ugly and bloody way, I agree that, in the larger scheme of things, they are more of a nusiance than a credible national threat.  The danger lies in them "upscaling" to something like a EMP bomb that could take out everything electric in half of the country in one whack.  I am sure that they have to be planning on this, at some point, when they have enough money and technology to make that happen - fortunately they don't have enough money yet and I doubt that they have the technology, either, but you can bet that somebody, somewhere is working on it!

  If they reduced everything east of the MIssippi back to horses and buggies, it would be a mess that would make WWII look like playing in the sand box, and I think it behooves all of us, and more especially those of us with some alternative means of power generation, to be advised of the threat and to act accordingly, as in be prepared for a long black out and the lack of social order that would follow.  Maybe I'm an extremeist, in fact, I hope that I am, but I would rather be prepared and not need it than the other way around!  <grin>

  I sort of look at the preparedness situation as needing a little "insurance" which is one of the few things that you buy and hope that you never need!  <smile>

  Do I believe that we are all going to be bombed back to the stone age? - No, not even remotely.  Have I stocked up with two years of special long storage food like the preppers?  No, but I do can some of my own produce/jams/etc. Do I have evrything in a faraday cage?  No - but I do have a few hard to replace extra solid state things salted away, wrapped in foil and in an ammo can just in case!  And I do have a garden and am getting things together to have a few rabbits and chickens and goats, at least partly, so that if everything crashed, I would have something to start with and build upon and not be starting from scratch - but then, I am retired and it is a "hobby" which keeps me from getting in worse trouble with my spare time!!  <grin>

  So, on balance, are terrorists a real threat this minute?  Nope!  Could they be?  You becha!!  Should we do things to prepare?  That's everybody's own call - personally I think a little preparation and fore thought is good but living your life around the expection that something terrible is going to happen is bad - but that's me . . . everybody has to make up their own mind on where in the preparedness-unperpared continum they are going to be.

  That's my opinion, YMMV!  <grin>

Regardz,

Wayne Stayton

[deeiche]

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[WStayton]

deeiche:

  You said:  "Just keep reminding anyone you know that every time our US Gov't announces another "job creating program" or "tax reduction bill" or anything else that keeps our national debt rising . . .  "

   How'd the US thieves, err, um, . . . government get in this? <grin>

  We'd probably all be better off if we lined up the total govermnment cadre, State and Federal, and summarily shot two out of three of them!   I'll even chip in for the shells! <grin>

  I can't see where the US Government has done much, except hurt me, one way or another, lately.  I paid into Social  Security for about forty years and now they tell me that I'm a drag on the economy because they have to pay some of it back to me!  I wish I could get a deal like that where I collected a percentage of somebody's hard earned wages, in a "savings" account, no less,  for forty years and then, when they came to get some of it back, I could just write them off as a drag on the federal government and keep their money in my pocket - but, maybe, I am unique in taking issue with being stolen from?

  As for the NY group of State thieves and robbers, a/k/a legislators, they seem to take delight in stuffing the taxpayer's money in their pockets and then they cry big crocodile tears when they get caught (regularly) and spend a few years in Sing-Sing or one of the Federal Houses of Corrections(?).  (? added because I have never seen any evidence of them "correcting" anything!)

   A joke for you:  How do they define job security for "lawmakers" in NY?  Give up?  Prison!!  That is ONE thing that the feds do for the citizens of NY; they put a few legislators in the pokey every year, so I guess the are not ALL, as in 100%, bad!

  Ok, I'll get down off of my high horse now, before I blow a blood vessel and have ANOTHER stroke! <grin>  Government is a BAD-WORD, though, at least as far as I'm concerned!

  Thanx for putting up with my drivel!

Regardz,

Wayne Stayton

[bschwartz]

Wayne, YOU don't need that money you put into SS.  Obviously you've lived without that money this long, it should be given to the big oil companies to 'encourage' them to invest in research......

[deeiche]

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[veggie]

Hi Guys,

As moderator it's my duty to help keep the topic on track.
In this case ... "EMP proof generator heads and the ST models".
Politics and finance in the "General" section please. 

[WStayton]

veggie:

  Sorry about the drift/rant but sometime, most of the time actually, I just can't help myself!  <grin>

  I'll make an effort to stay closer to the subject line hereafter!

  Thanx for steering us, or least me, back on track!

Regardz,

Wayne Stayton