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Started by keith71, May 13, 2022, 03:10:52 PM

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keith71

What is the cost of Diesel where you live? $6.57 gallon for diesel fuel here in Connecticut on 5/13/22.  Over $3200 to fill our 500 gallon tank for our trucks.
Is anyone near $7.00 yet?...
Kubota D722
10HP Diesel Air cooled 186fa yanmar clone                                                         
12/2   Field Marshall CS Lister clone
 R170 Jiangdong  (needs some work)

keith71

I have an unlimited supply of firewood and woodchips available year round for free. Starting to think about wood gas instead of my diesel generator. Hurricane season is less than a month away,hopefully diesel will drop alot by then..
Kubota D722
10HP Diesel Air cooled 186fa yanmar clone                                                         
12/2   Field Marshall CS Lister clone
 R170 Jiangdong  (needs some work)

veggie

#2
Yes, diesel fuel is certainly costly. Same here in Canada.
I suspect we will rapidly see renewed interest in alternate fuels.
WVO, WMO, Biodiesel, Blends of all types, and BioGas too.

Maybe our "Alternate fuels" section will get busy again :-)

Henry W

#3
Keith, Thanks for giving the heads up. I just called the oil company where I buy off road diesel and at this time off road and on road diesel is the same price at $5.80 a gallon.

I went to the out of the way place that sells off road and I got it for 4.79 a gallon. It's a place that does not sell much off road diesel so their prices might be a little behind the current rate.

In 1992 off road diesel used to be sold right next to on road diesel in East Haven, Branford, Old Saybrook, New London and other places on the coastline. Mostly near the marinas.

It looks like we could be in for rough times. This is hurting truckers badly. My guess is delivery shortages could get worse than what it is now. And prices on everything is going to skyrocket.

Truckers are likely to revolt. Its probably going to be a huge mess very soon.

Henry W

#4
Quote from: veggie on May 14, 2022, 08:26:52 AMYes, diesel fuel is certainly costly. Same here in Canada.
I suspect we will rapidly see renewed interest in alternate fuels.
WVO, WMO, Biodiesel, Blends of all types, and BioGas too.

Maybe our "Alternate fuels" section will get busy again :-)

I would think people are going to get fed up very soon with what's happening and start doing somthing to combat the cost of high fuel prices.

History proven that a little bit of unity with like minded hard working people helped correct  situations in the US, our neighboring countrys and other countries around the globe.

Henry W

One thing to consider is propane. I just paid $3.52 a gallon. It stores for a long time, and a 500 gallon tank is available in most areas.

Fuel efficiency can be boosted on converted conventional gasoline engine such as a honda or honda clone engine by boosting the compression. Another thing is wet stacking would not be an issue. So running a propane generator at 25% load or lower should not be too much of a problem.

Henry

keith71

They are definately talking disruptions on the east coastYou cannot view this attachment.
Kubota D722
10HP Diesel Air cooled 186fa yanmar clone                                                         
12/2   Field Marshall CS Lister clone
 R170 Jiangdong  (needs some work)

keith71

What is scary is nobody but a few are saying anything about this and it could become a big time problem. No coverage on the news nothing... strange
Kubota D722
10HP Diesel Air cooled 186fa yanmar clone                                                         
12/2   Field Marshall CS Lister clone
 R170 Jiangdong  (needs some work)

veggie

Quote from: Henry W on May 14, 2022, 02:38:05 PMOne thing to consider is propane. I just paid $3.52 a gallon. It stores for a long time, and a 500 gallon tank is available in most areas.

Fuel efficiency can be boosted on converted conventional gasoline engine such as a honda or honda clone engine by boosting the compression. Another thing is wet stacking would not be an issue. So running a propane generator at 25% load or lower should not be too much of a problem.

Henry

Interesting idea Henry,
Interesting because we can also run our diesels on 70% Propane/30% Alternative fuel as pilot ignition engines without any modification. As you stated, propane stores for a very long time.
WVO
Diesel
WMO
Biodiesel
... can all be used for pilot ignition.



Henry W

That's correct Veggie, thanks for bringing this up. I have to start look into Propane and diesel as a pilot once again. I forgot all about this. Years ago we were discussing this. I think part of it is the older we get, we start forgetting some important stuff.

Henry W

#10
And with the Kubota EB300 engine, the intake manifold already has a 1/8" NPT tapped threaded hole for the cold start fuel enrichment pump nozzle. A simple tee would make easy hookup for propane.

Now were getting someplace.

Henry W

#11
I have to figure out nozzle size for propane, regulator size and how many inches of water column (pressure) will be required.

One thing I would be concerned about is: Will the comperssion have to be dropped on the EB300.

keith71

I do have a generac
GTH-990 engine that was used on one of those home generators.It is setup for propane and makes about 32 horsepower at 3600 rpm. Thinking it should make 15hp at 2000 rpm. I was going to convert to gasoline for a tractor project. I hate propane though. I know it has alot of advantages just do not like it. But it would probably make a nice belt driven generator engine. Plus it has the high compression pistons in it for propane.
Kubota D722
10HP Diesel Air cooled 186fa yanmar clone                                                         
12/2   Field Marshall CS Lister clone
 R170 Jiangdong  (needs some work)

mobile_bob

i know my s195 will run just fine on waste motor oil
and as we know the ash content accelerates cylinder wear, however

with prices of highway diesel about $5.40 locally, my argument for using
waste oil factoring in engine overhaul costs, waste motor oil makes a lot of sense.

the modern diesels all require low ash oils, so using waste oils from my local truck fleets
look to be an alternative.

bob g

veggie


mobile_bob,

I wonder if periodic water injection might keep the system clean enough that ash would not be a concern ?