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GM90 Listeroid Powerplant Walkaround

Started by veggie, December 29, 2011, 02:35:50 PM

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veggie

The holidays allowed me a bit of free time to finish up my Listeroid powerplant project.
After a year of "on-and-off" working, this project is finally done.
Rather than explain my setup, I made a "walkaround" video to share.
This is a GM90 Listeroid coupled to a Voltmaster 4kw head.
Currently the engine is de-rated from 900 rpm to 650 rpm where it produces 5HP (or 2.5 kw electrical @ full loaded).
I did try to coax 3kw from it but the black smoke told me it was too much  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l562wUof59c

veggie

Carlb

great looking setup,  sounds good,  What mounts are you using?

carl
My Projects
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2005 Infiniti G35 coupe 6 speed manual transmission

Tom Reed

You'll get quite a bit more power once the rings seat and the rest of the engine breaks in.
Ashwamegh 6/1 - ST5 @ just over 4000 hrs
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Tom

dieselgman

Excellent system! Thanks for the video!

dieselgman
Ford Powerstroke, Caterpillar 3304s, Cummins M11, Too many Listers to count.

Ronmar

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Quote from: Tom on December 29, 2011, 03:12:41 PM
You'll get quite a bit more power once the rings seat and the rest of the engine breaks in.

I agree, at 650 RPM, I would think you should be closer to 6HP and able to sustain 3KW of electric load fairly easilly.  Nice clean installation:)

Are you sure you are getting 650 RPM?  I am assuming that is a 3600 RPM generator, what are your flywheel and pully diameters?   My educated ear(and a stopwatch) count 100 firings/200 RPM in 17.4 seconds.  Recording/playback speed not withstanding, that works out to be around 690 RPM by my math...  That should net you over 6HP, so once it gets broke-in, you might look into injector timing, cam timing, fuel flow ect...
Ron
"It ain't broke till I Can't make parts for it"

mbryner

JKson 6/1, 7.5 kw ST head, propane tank muffler, off-grid, masonry stove, thermal mass H2O storage

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squarebob

GM 90s are a bit smaller than a listeroid and run at 750 RPM
GM90 6/1, 7.5 ST head, 150 Amp 24V Leece Neville, Delco 10si
Petter AA1 3.5 HP, 75 Amp 24V Leece Neville
2012 VW Sportwagen TDI, Average 39.1 MPG

fabricator


Ronmar

Quote from: squarebob on December 29, 2011, 05:40:01 PM
GM 90s are a bit smaller than a listeroid and run at 750 RPM

You know I don't think I ever looked at the specs for the GM-90 before.  I didn't realize it gets it's 6HP AT 750 RPM...  Please disregard my HP estimates, but I stand by my RPM estimate:)
Ron
"It ain't broke till I Can't make parts for it"

playdiesel

Wow, That is realy a clean installaton. I like it!
Fume and smoke addict
electricly illiterate

veggie


Thanks guys,

The GM90 that I got is the version with the heavier 900 rpm flywheels.
At 900 rpm it makes 8 HP.
at 750 rpm it makes 6 HP, and
at 650 rpm it makes 5 HP

The Voltmaster brushless generator head is rated at 4kw continuous and 5kw intermittent (10 minutes max)
Eventually I may speed the drive system up to 900 rpm and make a good 4 kws.

veggie

akghound

WOW! That is one nice setup. Good job.
Ken Gardner
One Day At A Time 
2000 F450 7.3 Powerstroke / Home Built WVO conversion
96 Dodge Cummins 2500 4x4 / Homebuilt WVO conversion
Listeroid Generator on used ATF
Living off grid

veggie

Quote from: Carlb on December 29, 2011, 02:56:38 PM
great looking setup,  sounds good,  What mounts are you using?

carl

Hi Carl,

The rubber isolators are made by the Karman rubber company.
I used their "2 piece Center bonded" product.

Here is the link....
http://www.karman.com/cbonded1.cfm

and below is my design for the mount to connect the engine base to the isolator and the floor.
The engine base sits totally isolated from the concrete base.

veggie






Carlb

Thanks Veggie,

Those look identical to the vibration dampers I have on my wind turbine.  My wind turbine (skystream 3.7) has 8 of them where the turbine mounts to the tower.

Carl.
My Projects
Metro 6/1  Diesel / Natural Gas, Backup Generator  
22kw Solar in three arrays 
2.5kw 3.7 meter wind turbine
2 Solar Air heaters  Totaling 150 Sq/Ft
1969 Camaro 560hp 4 speed automatic with overdrive
2005 Infiniti G35 coupe 6 speed manual transmission

Ronmar

They look like auto body-chassis mounts...

AHH your paint-foo is strong!
Ron
"It ain't broke till I Can't make parts for it"