another 6/1 gets fired up the first time since India

Started by bearhawk, April 29, 2011, 04:54:29 PM

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bearhawk

I posted this on the listerengineforum but thought there might be interest here too.

Today, 4/29/11, was the big day.  I started up my 6/1 Jkson/Powersolutions.  I have a little oil leak on the pipe that connects to the elbow for the oil pickup screen but other than that everything seems good.  I bought this engine in Feb 2011 from a guy who bought it originally in 2005.  He bought it but never ran it.  He had taken things apart a little here and there.  It was a deal too good to pass up. 

What did I do with it before starting it?  I tore it down completely and removed a fair amount of casting sand from the webs inside the crankcase then bead blasted the piston to remove casting sand from the underside of the piston.  I had to put in new connecting rod bearings due to fod then use plastigage to verify clearances.  I painted both the inside and outside of everything.  I had to make an offset idler bolt and got the lash down to .0045" on the cam gear.  I had to hone down the glazed cylinder due to the sand used in the Indian break in :-).  I put in new sleeve o-rings.  Some of the oil seals were bashed in so I put new ones in when I put in new gaskets for everything. 

Anyhow, I made two videos of it, the first and second starts and I have a lot of photos on listerenginegallery. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-saUYb8IxxY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN9WruyjF7k
http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4911

I have an ST10 that I will run with the 6/1 and also my 12hp yanclone tractor.

Anyhow, I just wanted to let folks know another one came to life on this fine Spring day.

There are still some gems hidden out there that can still be had.  I had to travel several states away to get it but I was already going near there to go skiing. 




2005 Powersolutions/JKSon 6/1 with ST-10
Yanmar 2v78 V-twin diesel for a motorcycle
Yanclone single cyl 12hp diesel in a Cub Cadet
http://www.youtube.com/user/bearhawk767
http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4911

flywheel

Its nice to see it running, some of the stuff from India is pretty nasty before it is cleaned, adjusted and reassembled properly.  Nice job! 
I see you are from SW MI, I do go to Four Winds once in a while for some entertainment and even get lucky once in a while.  I'm in NE IL about 2.5 hrs from Four Winds. 
                                                                                 flywheel
Never met a diesel engine I didnt like.

rcavictim

You sure did a thorough job on that rebuild.  Looks terrific!  It looks like you got lucky on the engine balance as well.
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

bearhawk

Thanks guys,
Luck of the draw on the balance.  I am amazed at how easily they start (how slow they can be turning) and still kick back to life.  Anyhow, I was just glad that I had some decent parts to work with.  I don't want to speak too soon but it appears to have been a "diamond in the rough."  After some polishing it cleaned up nicely anyhow.

For the last several months I have been reading on the two listeroid forums and notice I'm not alone.  I am an aircraft mechanic and commercial pilot.  I was a professional bush pilot/mechanic but now only fly for pleasure once in a while.  I guess the A&P mechanic in me comes out often and that's probably part of the thoroughness...it's also why it takes me a while to do a project like this as it's not done until it's right!

I appreciate all that I've learned from this group and the other group.  You guys helped me learn about listeroids and other things.  Your knowledge and even heated discussions have been a big help. 

My exhaust lifter spins really well and the intake spins but only about 10% of what the exhaust one does.  Hopefully it will get better with time. 

Now on to learn about co-gen and using WMO, dual fueling with natural gas, etc...

Thanks to all for your help in your prior posts before I even got this thing.
2005 Powersolutions/JKSon 6/1 with ST-10
Yanmar 2v78 V-twin diesel for a motorcycle
Yanclone single cyl 12hp diesel in a Cub Cadet
http://www.youtube.com/user/bearhawk767
http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4911

veggie

Yep... that looks like a nice 6/1.
Very well behaved.
The work you did on it will go a long way to ensuring good lifespan.
You can expect to be able to produce 3kw from the ST10 head when driving it with the Listeroid 6/1.

veggie

bearhawk

Quote from: veggie on April 30, 2011, 07:56:45 AM
You can expect to be able to produce 3kw from the ST10 head when driving it with the Listeroid 6/1.

That's what I'm planning on.  I was trying to get a 7.5kw gen head because I have a 12hp yanclone and a  20hp 2V78 Yanmar also.  Tom at Central GA Generators (which was super to deal with) was out of 7.5kw at the time and made me a good deal on the 10kw unit.  My 2V78 can handle it if I need it to.  It was all about options for me.  It is way overkill for a 6/1 though.

On the bright side, when running the 6/1 I don't have to worry about any load balancing as I can draw all 3kw from one leg of 120v and still not be overloading that side.
2005 Powersolutions/JKSon 6/1 with ST-10
Yanmar 2v78 V-twin diesel for a motorcycle
Yanclone single cyl 12hp diesel in a Cub Cadet
http://www.youtube.com/user/bearhawk767
http://listerenginegallery.com/main.php?g2_itemId=4911

XYZER

Quote from: bearhawk on April 30, 2011, 07:40:35 AM
My exhaust lifter spins really well and the intake spins but only about 10% of what the exhaust one does.  Hopefully it will get better with time. 
Any rotation is a good thing.....when they don't rotate it will fail....try rotating the lifter guide and see if that will help....I never have been able to get them to rotate at the same speed.
Vidhata 6/1, Power Solutions 6/1, Kubota Z482

Ronmar

You havn't got it up to full op temp yet?  If the lifters spin at all when cold, they should spin wonderfully when it is up to full temp and being splashed with warm oil...

Your generator might protest a little bit if you pull all the load from one 120V leg.  Some growl:)
Ron
"It ain't broke till I Can't make parts for it"

LincTex

Quote from: bearhawk on April 29, 2011, 04:54:29 PM
I had to make an offset idler bolt and got the lash down to .0045" on the cam gear. 

Did you check it in several places of rotation?

Did you find the lash between gears getting tighter or looser at different points as the gears turned, or did it stay the same the whole time?
Metro 6-1 from Sam Crosby, 2007
Chang Chai 1110 - 18 HP