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Started by Lloyd, July 26, 2012, 11:39:00 PM

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Lloyd

I must have been being to subtle when I posted the current topic.

Right along the this topic http://www.microcogen.info/index.php?topic=2826.0
Quote from: Lloyd on July 27, 2012, 01:31:42 AM
Future

At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present strong deterioration corresponds to a 10–15% decline over the last 150 years and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value achieved approximately 2,000 years ago.

I was just poking at Global Warming again.

Lloyd
JUST REMEMBER..it doesn't matter what came first, as long as you got chickens & eggs.
Semantics is for sitting around the fire drinking stumpblaster, as long as noone is belligerent.
The Devil is in the details, ignore the details, and you create the Devil's playground.

Lloyd

Quote from: Lloyd on July 30, 2012, 01:32:17 AM
I must have been being to subtle when I posted the current topic.

Right along the this topic http://www.microcogen.info/index.php?topic=2826.0
Quote from: Lloyd on July 27, 2012, 01:31:42 AM
Future

At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker; the present strong deterioration corresponds to a 10–15% decline over the last 150 years and has accelerated in the past several years; geomagnetic intensity has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value achieved approximately 2,000 years ago.

I was just poking at Global Warming again.

Lloyd

http://landshape.org/enm/global-temperature-change-and-geomagnetic-field-intensity/
Alan Cheetham drew my attention to a post on his blog, showing the close relationship between geomagnetic field strength, and rate of temperature change (warming in the N Hemisphere and cooling in the S Hemisphere). The idea is that the the effect of cosmic rays on the Earth's temperature by seeding low clouds, will be most apparent where the magnetic field is weakest. Maps of the geomagnetic field show an uncanny correlation with 'recent warming' (UAH 1978-2006):
JUST REMEMBER..it doesn't matter what came first, as long as you got chickens & eggs.
Semantics is for sitting around the fire drinking stumpblaster, as long as noone is belligerent.
The Devil is in the details, ignore the details, and you create the Devil's playground.

fabricator

Nothing ever changes and nothing ever stays the same, and there are no rules only historical approximations, and all the times the rules are changing, the earth is slowing, the moon is moving farther away, NOBODY can say for sure anything about any geophysical phenomena that may or may not happen, it is entirely possible that the current magnetic pole positions have reached a state of some kind of equallibriam where they may more or less remain for half a million years or more.
The only thing that is REALLY important is that we HAVE a magnetic field otherwise we turn into Mars.

mobile_bob

i dunno, its seems to me those that get all knotted up about what this rock does, illustrate in painful clarity the pinnacle of narcissism.

the day comes that science and those that go on and on about it, worrying about global warming/cooling, ozone holes, earths magnetic poles, and all the other crap, stop and realize that the earth is a very dynamic place "and" we are only along for the ride, possibly all this brain power could then be used for something useful.  All the money spent researching it, trying to effect changes over it, might be better spent effecting change over what we can all accept as having some control over.

better roads and bridges, better medicine, better power grids, more food production, better distribution, etc etc. all of which would create more jobs, better economic stability, and a more pleasant environment to live in.

instead of being reactionary we as a people ought to be proactive, and realize that things are going to change over time, sometimes over long periods of time, sometimes over short periods of time, its all going to happen.

i often wonder if we have reached the point of diminished returns when it comes to trying to control or effect changes over our environment?  surely it was a good thing that they removed lead from gasoline, lowered the sulpher content of fuels (oil and coal) and stopped dumping sewage into rivers.  all that has been done, and yes it made a significant improvement in the quality of air and water we live with...

what cost millions of dollars to effect maybe a 10% change, now cost billions of dollars to maybe effect a 1% change.  and the gap will only widen over time.

at what point is it just ridiculously expensive to effect a changer that is within the margins of error of measurement?  i suspect we are already there in many area's.

i know this is a rant, but lately there has been so much talk about AGW and such being resurrected because we are heading into an election, that i just gotta let off some steam somewhere.

lucky you huh?

;)

bob g

fabricator

You put it better than I did, we are in this hand basket for the ride we can't steer we are just along for the ride, like the guy who had put on his tomb stone, "I'd have liked to stuck around to see how this all turns out". LMAO.