Kubota GL6500S genny: Engine speed control and other questions

Started by diesel, November 14, 2011, 05:08:17 AM

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diesel

Hey,

I've been working on a project for my brother for a while now. He's got a remote house with no utility connections. I've set him up with a Trace 4548 inverter / charger, a 180Ah 48V ex substation battery bank (hoping to get more soon), and have just recently acquired a  Kubota diesel genset (GL6500S rated at 6kW continuous) to replace the unreliable and fuel hungry Hyundai petrol gen they're currently using.

Photo of the same model (but better condition) genset


The Trace can charge at a maximum of 60A (DC), so around 3.5kW AC input.

Speed Control
The alternator is 2 pole (3000RPM over here in Aust), and is belt driven with a ZB600-GL-S, also running at 3000RPM. All speed control seems to be electronic with feedback from the alternator.

Is adjusting the run speed as simple as changing the pulleys and belts given the speed control seems to be all electronic?

Any opinions on how this engine would run if slowed down to say 2400RPM or so. I know I'd have a loss of power of around 20% (possibly more/less depending on the torque curve of the engine), but it'd run quieter and I would expect be a bit more efficient on fuel. I can limit the input to the trace to 4kW which would still not be running at 100% load. The batteries won't accept full charge for very long anyway and then the load will drop off unless stuff in the house is drawing. Given the gen will be running while the house is unoccupied this isn't likely.

Cogen / heat exchange
The genset will also be set up as cogen. My plan is to circulate the coolant through a plate heat exchanger (like the below). A secondary loop will be pumped through the heat exchanger and back to the hot water tank, drawing from the bottom and returning to the top of the tank.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/270833027611?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_7313wt_1002

Will the 3/4" connectors restrict the flow too much for the coolant circulation? Would this be worse than the pressure drop through a radiator? I'm not expecting any problems but would be very happy to defer to someone with some experience!

I'm also planning on setting up a heat exchanger on the exhaust. Details haven't been fully firmed on how, but probably a pipe in a pipe kind of system with some sort of ridge to break up the flow, and easily removable for cleaning. Has anyone had a go at an exhaust heat exchanger before?

Safety
Finally, has anyone got any recommendations on engine safety? The gen has cutout on coolant temp and oil pressure (both tested and working fine).
Is there a way of adding a sensor so that the gen will shutoff on a broken belt? At the moment the engine would keep running, and then the Trace would keep trying to restart it. Not a good option! I'm thinking a couple of time delay relays that won't allow the gen to be restarted for 10 mins after being started initially (crank inhibit: 10s on delay, 10 min off delay).
Any other bright ideas - perhaps a SPL sensor?

Mods, if this should be in a different section please move it.

;D

mbryner

QuoteIs there a way of adding a sensor so that the gen will shutoff on a broken belt? At the moment the engine would keep running, and then the Trace would keep trying to restart it. Not a good option! I'm thinking a couple of time delay relays that won't allow the gen to be restarted for 10 mins after being started initially (crank inhibit: 10s on delay, 10 min off delay).

If it has an electronic governor, that would imply that it has under- and overspeed protection.  Are you sure the engine still runs if the alternator stops turning?   I'm using a generator controller from England that can be programmed to do what you want.   http://www.gencontrol.co.uk/

Marcus
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diesel

Thanks for the info and link Marcus. I think you may be right, but I don't have any information on the engine protection relay so can't be sure. I'll try starting it with the oil pressure switch disconnected (ie. the relay thinks there is oil pressure) and see if it starts.

Cheers,
Nick