WVO Processor ver. 2.0

[LowGear]

Yikes veggie,

You just scared me.  I've got a stinker about noise on the farm.  Noise like a small diesel tractor idling or like a compressor running continuously?

I've contacted a couple of the links for better information.

It sounds like a oil filter ahead of the pump would also be wise.  How well does stuff suck through automobile filters rather than being pushed as intended?

Those screw in water heater elements.  Are they 1.25" NPT?

Casey

[veggie]

Like an air compressor running continuous.
I put my ear protection on when I'm  working beside my unit.
Its the metal gears.

Veggi

[bschwartz]

Casey,  I pour my oil through a restaurant cone filter as it goes into my filtering barrel.  That takes out any of the big chunks that would cause any issues with the centrifuge, or pump.  I don't think these things are THAT loud, more of a whirring noise.  You hear the electric pump, and the whir or whine of the pump.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62RSpNttv6Y
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdwQIs0OsWY

[LowGear]

Nice videos.  Thanks.

And they are noisy - really noisy if they're like the second one.  The fellow was talking pretty loud over the noise on the first one as well.  (Did you catch yourself rooting for the chamber coming off?)

I just spoke to Bill at McLendon Hardware in Renton, WA.  Possibly the best hardware store for DIYs in the states and the water heater elements use a one inch pipe thread.

I'm waiting on a reply from the Ebay vender that has the used motor-pump units.

I use a 100 micron filter for my WVO but the specs call for 45 microns on the Spinner II centrifuge.

Stay tuned for this step by step distance learning seminar.

Thank you all, really.

Casey

[LowGear]

Pump Alert on Ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290563799872&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

You think the 1/4 HP motor is too wimpy?

Nice price.

The shipping on the McCann unit put it in the stratosphere.

Casey

[bschwartz]

Yes Casey, the 1/4 hp is too wimpy.

[bschwartz]

http://cgi.ebay.com/CARBONATOR-MOUNT-PUMP-1-3-HP-115-VOLT-/360362743283?pt=BI_Pumps&hash=item53e74b15f3

This is pricey, but it is a more powerful motor, and the MUCH preferred gear pump.

[veggie]

Brett,

That pump only puts out 1.1 gpm at 100 psi.
I think it's too small for Casey's big centrifuge ?

veggie

[Lloyd]

I paid $129.00 for this drum pump new, which I DYI'd for my on-board fuel polishing pump.

I run Dino-D, so the 13 gpm rating is based on RUG, I'm guessing I get about 10 gpm with Dino-D. It's a 120 volt gear pump, UL listed blow up proof with RUG.

I polish my fuel tanks once a month, and run each tank for an 1hr. I installed it in 2003, it runs cool, even after 1 hr, I'll bet the rotor temp doesn't exceed 80 F, the pump runs at about the temp of the fuel source.

I built the system for about $500.00, the commercial market systems at the time were running over 3K, at the time of build.

Lloyd

[LowGear]

Nice system. 

Wow

[bschwartz]

Veggie,
You are absolutely correct (I know you hate hearing that).  I didn't realize he had the 2+ gallon per minute centrifuge.  I'd go back to the pump/motor combination that shipo posted earlier.  At ~$225, it is a bargain that I'd grab, as the motor should be large enough (1/2 hp would be better) and the 4GPM pump is sized right.  The size motor you need, and pump specs are of course dependent upon the temp of your WVO of course.

[LowGear]

Aloha Gentlemen,

I am going to phone the local beverage companies this week and see what I can come up with.  I've got a couple of eSnipe bids waiting in the shadows. 

Some guys just have nicer stuff than I do.  I will be mounting my Spinner 76 on the drying station.  I have picked up a Ford filter mount to pre-strain the material prior to moving it through the pump (any ideas where I could find the specs on the different engine filters for Ford?).  Chances are that I'll use a 1/3 HP motor as the 1/2 HP units are kinda rare.  I have a procon pump spotted that has big numbers and 1/2" NPT ports.

The next question:

Will I hurt anything by running bio-diesel through this system part of the time and then WVO the other part?  My understanding is that bio-diesel just doesn't have to be as pretty prior to processing as does WVO before we stick into our fuel tanks.

Casey

[bschwartz]

Casey, for cheap, easy to find pre-filtration, whole house water filters work well.
The cartridges are readily available with 5 micron (nominal), which will definitely remove anything that would cause the centrifuge/pump to have issues.

Something like this.
http://cgi.ebay.com/1-Biodiesel-Wvo-Svo-Whole-House-Water-Filter-Sediment-/360366174337?pt=Small_Kitchen_Appliances_US&hash=item53e77f7081#ht_500wt_716

with these.

http://cgi.ebay.com/7-Sediment-Water-Filter-Whole-House-Reverse-Osmosis-/170497239885?pt=Small_Kitchen_Appliances_US&hash=item27b26d6b4d#ht_1733wt_754

[LowGear]

Hi Brett,

Thanks.  These water filters are what I use coming out of my WVO storage containers and RO system.  70 degree oil moves pretty darn slow through the 10 micron units.

I got this really neato cast aluminum housing that takes Ford cartridges.  It came with braided half inch lines as well.  How could I say not to a double header like that.  And 1/2 inch NPT adapters.  Almost a triple.  Does anyone have any idea what Ford filters get down to?

This quest of perfect oil kind of overtook me.  Settling back into pretty good is a standard that has served me well.  I wish I had the finesse to do work at some of the other members level but I just don't.  In case you didn't know I'm a great advocate of Dr. Harold Callahan.  "A man has to know his limitations!"

Thanks to you all.  I'll keep you updated but right now I have to go settle up with the fellow digging my generator pit.  Pictures?  A thread without pictures is like Thai food with no stars.

Casey

[LowGear]

Wow!  

Capthaddy on Ebay really came through for me.  He sold me the GE 1/3 HP pump and a Procon pump WITH 1/2 inch ports.  They'll really match the lines on the Ford oil filter block nicely.

And a couple of photos of the future generator pit.  Sorry about no photos of the back hoe with the ram doing it's thing in whats called blue rock here in the islands.  How do you like that deep rich top soil?  It's 11' by 14'.

I'll be back on this filter project in July.  And you can be sure I'll be referring to back to veggie's YouTube video in the first posting of this thread.  Is that nice work or what.  Mine will be a bit more Rube Goldberg with a little KISS (I hope).

Casey