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Started by veggie, April 20, 2011, 09:30:30 PM

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veggie

And now for your nightly entertainment....

This poor fellow started this engine for the first time after a rebuild.
(Turn up the volume)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zx3qKX_Pno&feature=related

Man....you have to feel for the guy  :'(

veggie

BioHazard

Apparently he missed something in the rebuild.  :o

Quote from: veggie on April 20, 2011, 09:30:30 PM
Man....you have to feel for the guy  :'(
I know that feeling. Like you're going to crap your pants cry and puke and blow a blood vessel all at the same time.  ::)
Do engines get rewarded for their steam?

Henry W

This is my guess, I think there  could of been somthing wrong with the turbo charger seals or the oil return line and the oil was getting pressure fed into the intake manifold.

Henry

vdubnut62

I think I would have at least sacrificed my shirt to try and smother it.
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Apogee

#4
Well, that's one way to ensure the rings are seated....

;D

I do also feel for the guy!

Steve

Jedon

Wow! That makes me want to put some kind of emergency air intake cutoff on my generators!
Can that happen to a 6/1 or an SR2?

veggie


I'm having second thoughts about routing my crankcase vent into the air intake.
If ever I broke a piston ring (or two) resulting in significant blow-by, is it conceivable that large amount of oil vapor could be expelled from the vent and into my intake port ?    YIKES !!   :o

veggie

bearhawk

I had an 81' diesel VW Rabbit that ran away on me.  It felt like a V8 was under the hood.  That was the only time I buried the speedo.  The rings were worn and the blowby pushed oil up the breather tube which attached to the intake plenum.  Well, the rest was history.  I was able to use the brakes to get it stopped but it had blown the head gasket.  After that I just had the breather dump overboard.
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TimSR2

Quote from: Jedon on April 22, 2011, 12:51:31 PM
Wow! That makes me want to put some kind of emergency air intake cutoff on my generators!
Can that happen to a 6/1 or an SR2?


Yes, any diesel that has enough ring wear,  or other concern that introduces lubricating oil into the cylinders can run away. Detroit 2 strokes  were famous for it and have to have an air shutoff,  by law in any marine or road application.  It usually only happens to engines that are hopelessly worn out, and 'ether addicted', which is another way of saying that the rings are shot.

Basically--   if it starts easily it probably has little chance of having this problem, but the older and crankier it gets the risk increases.

Unless you have a major turbo bearing failure and then you are probably stuffed, lol


BioHazard

Somebody here has a CO2 emergency shutdown on their generator, probably automatically activated, for such things...can't remember who. Seems like it would be wise to at least keep a CO2 fire extinguisher on hand when "playing" with your engine.
Do engines get rewarded for their steam?

fuelfarmer

The the video the red plunger thingy mounted next to the radiator is an emergency air shutoff puller. Shutting off the air is how the safety system stops the old Detroit. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhR10JUbi3U 

Henry W

With the listeroids and many other engines you can use a ball valve. Just size the ball opening to the size of the intake opening. Very quick, effective and cheap. I might put one on my Kubota generator project.

Henry

rcavictim

Princess has large ball valves with bronze bodies on sale right now.  I think the 1-1/2" is $20.
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veggie

#13
A couple more "runaways".

Seems like a predictable outcome once the process starts. (Unless one can remove the air supply).
BTW.....I bought a 1-1/2" ball valve for the inlet of my 6/1 engine.

Crank up the volume. 2/3 rds through this video you will here a bang. Then everything stops.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw2r_lIRgpY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRsaIp41snI


veggie

mbryner

sailawayrb has a CO2 emergency shutoff, if I remember correctly.  Look at his pics on the listerenginegallery.
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