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[veggie]

Hey All,

I have seen golf cart Starter/Generators from various suppliers and I wonder if this is a good addition for anyone who currently starts their Listeroid by hand.
It seems the motor can be used to crank the engine and then once started, can be used to recharge the starting battery and perhaps run a few small accessories.
The units have 2 heavy lugs for starter power and a 2 wire pigtail which connects to a voltage regulator for charging. (I assume light duty charging)

I also came across this older 2008 video of an installation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aS5_sDLmtKs&playnext=1&list=PLC159BE90A2F22A7B&feature=results_video

Belt drive the flywheel with this starter, and no need to disengage once its running.
Any concerns or further ideas regarding this type of setup ?
Sure seems a lot easier than adding automotive flywheels and gears  

veggie

[Cornelius]

They're pretty common here in Norway on smaller, older boat engines; both diesel and petrol up to 20+HP. 11A are the most used here.

I have one 20A on my Yanmar pmx-8, but i don't have the regulator, and i haven't so far managed to get hold on one... It's a mechanical regulator.

[Rom]

Yea, those are good rigs if you have the right one. You should look for this one in particular. http://www.nivelparts.com/pages/product.aspx?sku=700&c=014&n=

It has brushes almost triple the size of the standard motor brushes. Rated at 1hp there abouts, wont go over compression, but is a quick setup compared to standard automotive starting with a flywheel and such.

Chris R used a standard cart starter and put it on the gen head pulley, and that set of gear ratios allowed him to start the unit very easily i believe. Only thing he found was that it wore the brushes down rather quickly, but I havent got the final verdict on what the cause was, whether it was the speed the starter was running at being tied to the gen head, or just the long hours his machine does. I looked into one way bearings to see if we could 'disconnect' the starter for long running times.

More news as it develops, I am moving my lister to its final place soon, and then I will look into a permanent starter arrangement like the above.

Rom

[BruceM]

The trick for remote/auto start is to come up with a solution for decompression and rack closer.  Since my 6/1 is strapped up as both generator and air compressor,  I used inexpensive air cylinder actuators for both, in addition to a Gast 4AM air motor starter with rubber friction drive and air cylinder actuator.

All electric would be far more widely applicable.  I haven't see anyone else do an auto decompressor of any sort, though I think there is a 6/1 out there with a Murphy solenoid rack closer.

[Cornelius]

Just to mention; they're called a 'Dynastarter' around here...

And, a solenoid for decompression; it's usual to connect it to a starter key-switch that one have to press down for decompresion and turn the key and hold to turn the engine; then release the press to release to decompress; then release the key to stop the starter... Atleast here, in a boat-engine application...

Edit;
For the record; I had a wooden boat with an 12hp 2cyl 4-stroke engine (Gasoline; Two litres cubic...) from '54 with one of those 11A 'Dynastarters'; The brushes never wore out, they shrinked from 20mm to maybe 16mm in a period of 12 years; running almost every day for 6 months/year... (and it's 4 of them... )

Atleast; that's my experience with them...
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