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#1
Hi Gang

Just wanted to provide an update to my build.  I just completed a major overhaul to correct some issues that have been nagging at me.

I could have avoided them if I had just read a little more on here.

1) The 1.5 inch square tube frame was no where near ridgid enough.  I have significantly strengthend the frame.  This has dramatically reduced vibration and has pretty much eliminated belt movement

2) I mounted the radiator horizontally (not as compact as before, but no leaking around the cap now. I can also add an expansion tank now)

3) I have updated the mounting / tensioning system by use 2 pieces of 1.5in square tube separated by a bolt width to provide the slots for belt adjustment.  This is far stronger that the lightweight bars I had for dogging it down before.

I am very happy with the arrangement I have now.  I have even created an idler assembly like Henry's.  I have not mounted it yet because I have to get a longer belt to make it work.

I would love to see some of the Cat / Perkins builds out there!


Thanks for all your help!

Chris


#2
ST and STC generators / Help with Voltage on ST Head
December 21, 2009, 06:41:16 AM
Hi guys

During a recent test run of my setup - Cat 0.5 driving a ST5 head, I noticed a problem.  I was getting 88V on each leg.  My ST has a AVR, so I removed the "voltage sense leads" and voltage came back up to 125V.  The AVR is still in the loop, but I suspect is just passing the Z winding voltage through.  I origninally had not planned on ordering one with an AVR at all.  It was just a surprise that it was in there.

My questions are:

1) Is 125V (@60.5HZ) too high?  - No Load
2) If I turf the AVR, How do I lower the voltage?  Or do I even need to?

If it safe, I will run it in it's current config.

Thanks for your help!
#3
Thanks for the advice guys!  Bob  I went out and picked up a dial indicator with a magnetic base/arm.  It made it really easy to check the run-out.

Sure enough the problem was actually on the generator pulley bushing.  I must not have torqued it correctly.  Quick adjustment and belt movement has reduced by 80%.

Now the bottom of the belt "vibrates" by a coulple of mm rather than 10's of mm.  The top section of belt is equally stable. Is a couple of mm displacement acceptable?

I can still hear a mild / barely audible belt "squeak"  (even at no load).  Does this portend another issue?


One other interesting experience is trying to run furnace oil.  One of the local service stations has a pump that dispenses "furnace oil".

I picked up 5 gallons and proceeded to start the genset.  It ran very rough & produced more smoke.  It was almost like it was missing.

The only thing I can figure is that they were actually selling kerosene as instead of fuel oil.  I am going to draw some off my furnace tank and try running it to see what happens.

Does anyone else have any experience running one of this of other fuels?

On a final note, lets see some projects!  I need some more inspiration!

Thanks

Chris


#4
Around 2400, actually only slightly less than it was set for when it arrived.  Maybe a half turn down on the governor setting.


Chris
#5
Noise outside is VERY low.  I very happy with the noise level outside the barn.  Inside is a bit louder, but tolerable.

There is a bit of vibration, but again not excessive.  The front legs of my frame were just steel resting on concrete & the unit didn't wander around too much.  I have since place a rubber cushion under the legs.

I am pretty happy with the setup.  I just need to make up a dual idler pulley arrangement to reduce belt slap.


Chris
#6
More Pictures and another comment... I discovers a really easy and inexpensive 1" to 1.25" hose adapter.  Went to home depot and bout a 1" barbed to 1" NPT adapter & a 1.25" to 1.25" NPT adapter.  I then slid the 1" threaded end inside the 1.25" and welded the seam.  You can see one in the pictures above the water separator.
#7
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#8
Here are some pictures of my first generator build based on an ST5 and Cat C0.5.  I used a serpentine drive from Mike Moneith.  I have added an automatic generator controller - GTR-168 from Tom at Georgia Generators.  I used a K&N air filter off ebay.  I made an insulated through-wall thimble that works really well.  The unit holds all of my loads really well.  The power output is stable and good enough to run everything I have.  Plasma TV and computers are fine running on generator power.  Fridges, Microwave and Well pump also are fine.  The only issue I currently have is excessive belt slap.

Chris
#9
I am wrapping up my Generator build.  So far I am happy with everything.  The one kink I have not worked out is the belt tension.

I am using an 8 rib serpentine drive with a 6in & 8in pullet setup from Mike.  The Pulleys are about 16in on center, so that leaves me with a relatively short belt. I think it is around 54in.

I seem to be getting a lot of belt slap - an inch or so vertical movement  while operating.  I am reluctant to tighten the belt and harm the bearings in the engine. I have made sure the pulley faces are exactly true. 

Can someone describe a procedure to get the correct tension?  Should I add an idler?  This would not be too difficult.  I am driving a 5KW head and belt slippage does not seem to be an issue, although I only have 3KW test load.


I purchased the generator head and a GTR-168 controller from Tom at Georgia Generator, and he was great to deal with.  Mike Moneith provided a beautiful set of pulleys for what I thought was a VERY fair price.

I will post some pictures today in another thread.


Thanks for your help!

Chris