Regarding my stuck injection pump on my Changfa R175A which I talked about in this post: http://www.microcogen.info/index.php?topic=2577.msg29368#msg29368 (http://www.microcogen.info/index.php?topic=2577.msg29368#msg29368), I contacted George at Utterpower.com and asked his advice. George very kindly arranged for me to get a replacement injection pump for my virgin Power Solutions Changfa R175A which had been sitting three years in an unopened shipping crate. The injection pump was frozen from time and lack of use and I couldn't get it freed up. Here's George's email to me:
Quinn, you can post the following if it meets your standard..
Quinn,
Thanks for volunteering to test the delivery of part(s) from our Associate in China who is attempting to source QC'd parts for us. My intention is not to mark up prices, but to help foster a business in China that will focus on North American Customers, charge a fair price for the best quality they can source for we DIYers.
As for the old pump and getting it apart, I tell the story on my utterpower blog... along with a few notes so typical of these pumps. I didn't mention your name, and most who know you are aware that you don't miss much, it's true, I do own a bigger hammer than you do, and I did gloat a little :-) Had you been less of a DIYer, I would have found no joy :-) Here's the link http://www.utterpower.com/a-frozen-injection-pump-fuel-rack-what-to-do/ (http://www.utterpower.com/a-frozen-injection-pump-fuel-rack-what-to-do/)
The folks I've selected to deal with (in China) are just like us, they love tools, old engines, and the thrill of fabricating reliable power. These folks were educated in Oz, they have degrees in Business, but their hands on experience is what qualifies them to source QC, they know the heartaches of dealing with junk, and they know the ways of the West. Sure thing, they might speak Ozzie instead of English, in addition, they speak the Chinese languages, and this is really the only way you find the better sources... language barriers kill you nearly every time. These guys are excellent communicators none the less! And among the more honorable people I know...
We just need wait till they get the payment system up, and it will likely be paypal of course.
You will be the first to know it's ready to go, and when it is.. you can certainly share the news.
All the best,
George Utterpower.com
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That said, I ordered the part on February 10. I expected to see it in a couple of weeks or so. Check out the tracking timelines and note the miles this part traveled in just 3 days, shipped International Economy!
Qingdao CN
Beijing, CN
Incheon, KR
Anchorage, AK
Memphis, TN
Los Angeles, CA
Irvine, CA
Laguna Beach, CA
I don't know what the shipping cost because the payment mechanism isn't yet in place. But I'm impressed with how Fed Ex gets stuff to its destination! Look at the tracking information:
(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k70/quinnf_01/FedExDelivery.jpg)
Thanks, George and Lee and David for shipping me the pump. I applaud your initiative in setting up a distribution channel to North America.
Quinn
Thanks Quinn, I have a few Chinese singles around here in various states of repair. So do we contact George with parts requests or are those Chinese fellows going make themselves known for direct contact?
Butch
yes, please advise us on whom to contact Quinn
got a few changfa's that i would like some spares for too.
bob g
All I know is the PayPal account hasn't yet been created so I can't pay Lee for my pump (yet). George doesn't post on forums. He wrote: "You will be the first to know it's ready to go, and when it is.. you can certainly share the news," so I expect he doesn't know because he's not the one putting the deal together. I'll ask for clarification and post back here to save him the trouble of replying to individual requests.
q.
Guys,
George says he doesn't have any idea when parts ordering will be availability. Soon, he hopes. My impression is it's not him who's doing this, but rather his associates in China. Sorry if my post raised any hopes. I was just happy to be able to get a new IP to replace the stuck one. As a bonus I learned that something is in the works by someone in China to get parts directly to North America, so I passed that along.
So for now, it's "hurry up and wait." I'll post back here as soon as I hear anything.
Quinn
With all the sellers on eBay shipping from China, you would think a paypal account would be pretty easy to setup.
Quote from: LincTex on February 24, 2012, 05:09:48 AM
With all the sellers on eBay shipping from China, you would think a paypal account would be pretty easy to setup.
Setting up the PayPal account is easy, it is getting money into China.
The chinese companies I've dealt with that take PayPal are Hong Kong based, which is a special economic/political zone. Any time I've dealt with a company in the remainder of china payment has been done via wire transfer. This money goes into their account at a gov't bank, where it gets converted to yuan at the gov't controlled exchange rate.
Lee is in Malaysia and is working with another guy who, I gather, is on the mainland, so there's some coordination to be done. I've ordered stuff through Hong Kong, too, and it's arrived OK, though it's taken a couple of weeks.
Yep, Hong Kong is pretty easy, albeit somewhat slow. Mainland China is a whole 'nother animal.
Ron.
Oh, thanks QuinnF for all you do and keep us in the loop, I've got an S1100 that needs a set of spares!!
I don't make any claim to knowing how it all works between here and China but I took a chance and ordered a charger and two spare batteries for my Blackberry from Ebay for some unbelievable low price like $9 including the shipping. Seller takes PayPal and in just over a week I had a air mail package that showed no sign of being opened and inspected by customs, My salesman did the same thing for his Droid. Cant remember the exact place in China it shipped from but it wasn't Hong Kong.
Parts for Chinese engines are now available to be ordered.
Check out http://www.utterpower.com/the-chinese-engine-parts-connection-lee-and-david/ (http://www.utterpower.com/the-chinese-engine-parts-connection-lee-and-david/)
Lee has got his PayPal accounts set up and George says he's good to go. George's message says it all, so I won't waste your time repeating it here.
If you're in need of a part, give Lee a shout at swleepp@gmail.com with the make and model of your engine, and the part number from the manual, if possible, and he should be able to help you.
A word to the wise: in my first contact with Lee, I asked for an injection pump for the CF R175A and there was some confusion as to terminology. The manual calls the injection pump an "oil pump" while the fuel injector is called something very similar to injector pump. I ended up scanning the part diagram and part description, circling the part number and part description I wanted and e-mailing that to Lee to make sure there was no misunderstanding.
Lee's english is excellent. But be aware that differences in terminology used by the Chinese manufacturer and North American end user make it easy for misunderstandings to occur.
Quinn
Sounds Awesome!!
Does anyone have a manual (or scan) for an R170 ? I can't find one on the net.
Quote from: quinnf on March 01, 2012, 11:03:18 AM
Parts for Chinese engines are now available to be ordered.
Check out http://www.utterpower.com/the-chinese-engine-parts-connection-lee-and-david/ (http://www.utterpower.com/the-chinese-engine-parts-connection-lee-and-david/)
Lee has got his PayPal accounts set up and George says he's good to go. George's message says it all, so I won't waste your time repeating it here.
If you're in need of a part, give Lee a shout at swleepp@gmail.com with the make and model of your engine, and the part number from the manual, if possible, and he should be able to help you.
A word to the wise: in my first contact with Lee, I asked for an injection pump for the CF R175A and there was some confusion as to terminology. The manual calls the injection pump an "oil pump" while the fuel injector is called something very similar to injector pump. I ended up scanning the part diagram and part description, circling the part number and part description I wanted and e-mailing that to Lee to make sure there was no misunderstanding.
Lee's english is excellent. But be aware that differences in terminology used by the Chinese manufacturer and North American end user make it easy for misunderstandings to occur.
Quinn
The chinese engine parts connection is now listed in the Dealers Registry. This will help members and other DIYers locate the info easily to purchase parts.
http://www.microcogen.info/index.php?topic=2652.msg30237#msg30237
Henry
i have ordered parts from china because there are no changfa resales even near finland. it is most important thing that you put detailed model and use always part no. that way there wont be any problems. btw prize for single parts are high because they use mostly airways. at least in here. air freight to finland was 30$ at first 0.5kg and then +15$ for every 0.5kg.
has anyone else ordered or emailed these guys yet? I've emailed them this past Friday. How quick should I expect a response? Maybe I'm just impatient.
Guys;
The people on the Chinese end are the same contacts I used when getting my shipment of engines. They are very trustworthy and will make sure you get what you need. I recommend them highly, they were invaluable in getting me good quality engines. Having said that, the usual disclaimer - no relationship through marriage, no baksheesh no nuthin'.........
Quote from: ryanw95 on April 17, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
has anyone else ordered or emailed these guys yet? I've emailed them this past Friday. How quick should I expect a response? Maybe I'm just impatient.
Hi Ryan,
together with my partner David in China, i had recently supply a qty of LaiDong engine to John F and the IP to Quinn.
if you need any parts, pls let us know. we will endeavor our best to deliver you the right parts in the most convenience way.
btw, the whole of China will shut down for a week for their May golden week holiday from end April to beginning May. if you need anything urgent, pls let us know.
thks.
Larry, this is the R180 I may need the injector pump for. I'm hoping this pic will give you the info you need to find the parts information.
Hi Ryan,
got it. shall revert. info pass to Larry.
microcogen posting by default is not viewable in China. the local ISP block it but we manage to get around using google dns.
dave
Is anyone in the US interested in becoming a distributor for these parts? (Dieselman?)
I was in contact with SW Lee, and he expressed an interest in doing so...
"i am trying to find a reseller in US so that these parts can be shipped in qty and be made readily available."
His contact email is swleepp@gmail.com
Quote from: bschwartz on December 10, 2012, 08:35:29 AM
Is anyone in the US interested in becoming a distributor for these parts? (Dieselman?)
I was in contact with SW Lee, and he expressed an interest in doing so...
"i am trying to find a reseller in US so that these parts can be shipped in qty and be made readily available."
His contact email is swleepp@gmail.com
problem is what the Chinese consider "qty"
they probably want to ship a container full of pistons ;D
i would be interested, provided the upfront cost is not prohibitive
also i don't want to get involved with "pissing" matches over retail prices
with someone coming to either of our forums complaining that he could buy a
head gasket for 5 bucks less by ordering direct from some other supplier directly.
* i am using a head gskt only as an example, actually i would not stock head gskts from the oem's, favoring the use of the products of "gaskets to go"
in other words, for me (or anyone that has any business background) to be involved
there would have to be a profit motive, and that profit is based on numerous factors.
most folks understand this, however there are a few that get all twisted up about paying even a 10% markup on a part.
speaking for myself (and i suspect anyone else that might be thinking about doing this), there is no way that i would want to put in even a few hundred dollars of repair parts and then have to deal with complaints on price.
there is a business concept that took me the better part of 20 years of my 36 years in business to fully understand and appreciate.
price has nothing to do with cost! cost is what a product sells for, that is what the market will bear.
if the market will bear 20 bucks for a head gskt, then it makes no difference if i can buy and stock it for 5 bucks.
anyone in business has to pay the price of the product, its shipping, its handling and reshipping, any warranty issues, and get a profit, shrinkage/damaged products, plus a return on the investment of the capital tied up in the venture to start with.
just wanted to state this up front, no matter who gets into this game, i want it known right up front that i will not tolerate anyone badmouthing a supplier over price of his products... you have the right to buy or not to buy those products, just as he has the right to sell them to you or anyone for whatever price he feels they are worth.
i know i am preaching to the choir, however over the years i have seen a few members on our forums, taking exception to those that sell products making even a 10% markup.
is it any wonder why there are so few that will get involved with doing this sort of business?
now then having said all that
i would be up for doing parts for the idi and di 195 series, as well as parts for the 1115 and the 175 series. i have no interest in doing parts for any other engine's, mainly because there are so few of the other engine types in this country.
fwiw
bob g
I had a partial order for SWLEE ready in June/July, and the prices were reasonable enough I decided to add more parts to the order... then got busy at work before I could finish it. I have a ZS1110.
If anyone would like to "co-op" with me on a parts order to get the price of shipping lower (if possible) please contact me at: linctexpilot (a.t ) gmail do.t com and put "Chinese diesel" or "Chang Fa parts" in the subject line. Hopefully we can work something out.
What ever happened with this? If I recall there was going to be an order for Redstone parts.
Quote from: Randybee1 on August 17, 2014, 07:24:56 AM
What ever happened with this? If I recall there was going to be an order for Redstone parts.
I was always hoping to get a nice big order ready to place.
About a week or so before I was going to place the order I had a huge contract dumped in my lap I had to fulfill.
My ZS1110 has less than .5 hours of running time over the last two years!!
Here's an big overhaul kit for a Changfa ZS1115 on eBay. (not me selling, I just noticed it)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/changfa-ZS1115-overhaul-kit-/221630563911?pt=BI_Heavy_Equipment_Parts&hash=item339a360647
just posted on your 195 cylinder problem thread, then read this thread
the ebay seller says he is going to have 195 rebuild kits coming in the end of feb
you might contact him and see if he can get some cylinders or at least one for you?
bob g
Thanks mobile_bob. I posted that exact question to him a little while ago. :)
And here's his response:
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hello mbryner
yes I have some sleeves but I do not know if they are good enough to sell,
I will check tomorrow in am, I have 1 piston but no rings, I have bearings, rod
and main , I have head gasket and gasket set , I have valves both exhaust and intake.
I have camshaft , and injector pump.
Everything else I will get in march, as Chinese new year is the month of February this
year. I am getting 6 complete sets of overhaul kits.
thanks for looking
fred
- wafw
i wonder what "good enough to sell" means?
are they rusty? poor quality? used?
me i would have no problem working with a new rusty sleeve, provided it was surface rust
and not something that has been floating in puget sound for the last decade.
if you find out that he has some sleeves that are just covered with surface rust, i would be up for one or two of them if they are available for a reasonable price... say maybe 20 bucks each?
blowby issues from pitted cylinders, while it can be a problem and make for a smelly operation
there are millions of mid size and hd truck engine's on the road with blowby issues that keep right on hauling the loads and making their owners money.
some engine types have what most here would never accept as useable from the gitgo, brand new and fresh out of the box... so i don't get to nutted up over a bit of blowby.
as long as the engine will start reliably, not use more oil than i can keep in the thing from one check interval to the next,,, and keep on running that way... well... there is something to be said for that?
anyway thanks for the ebay link/seller, i will also be checking with him for parts later in march or so to see what comes of it for the 195's
bob g
Well, he said he found a good one. $37 total for sleeve, O-rings, and shipping. And he had more parts for Changfas available. I told him to come over to this forum and he might find takers.
I can see how blow-by itself is not that awful, but it's blasting oil all over around the engine, and I'm going to have to keep filling the crankcase after each time.
Marcus
When its blowing the oil out of the crankcase its time to fix it.
Tom is correct. One thing you do not want to have is a runaway engine. This can happen with engines where the crankcase is vented in the intake. When the oil is going past the rings causing lots of blowby and than getting sucked in the intake it could cause a run away condition. Do not wait for this to happen.
Had a runaway like that on an 85 Jetta in a hard curve. I was lucky, at 48hp I was able to kill it with the brakes and not lose it.
In a stationary application if a fellow wasn't right there and able to plug the intake-- I guess it would scatter bits everywhere?
Maybe the genhead would come apart first? ???
My understanding is that a diesel runnaway occurs when the turbo oil seal leaks sufficient oil into the intake and the engine runs at full speed without throttle control. Theoretically the engine will run this way until it breaks or runs out of oil (or the user stops it).
However, I have never heard of a diesel runaway ocurring from piston ring blowby.
Presumably there is not enough fuel in the blowby mist to power much more than an idle speed ?
I could be wrong, but a blowby runaway does not make sense to me.
Anybody seen one ?
veggie
Over-speed caused by blow-by? Not exactly, but.....
I had a problem with my newly acquired Japanese grey market truck. Sometimes it would go into runaway mode for no apparent reason.
I was new to any diesel engines at the time, so asked several mechanics about the cause.........all answers were very costly repairs.
This was a normally aspirated engine BTW. After about the third exciting occurrence, I realized the runaway situations were happening when driving uphill.
The third time I could not shut down. We pulled over and bailed, expecting the thing to blow up, smoke everywhere, couldn't even see the truck.
It eventually stopped on its own. After a cool-down, it restarted, I drove carefully home.
In the end, I discovered someone had replaced the original dipstick with a shorter one from an unknown source. Filling the crankcase to the mark on the wrong dipstick took about 6.5 quarts instead of the designed 4 quart capacity. Drained some oil, never had the problem again in 100K miles. Found a different dipstick and added my own marks.......
Sometimes a simple solution serves, just have to find it!!!
Cheers,
Hugh