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Heat exchangers/thermal storage => Pumps, Pex and thermal storage => Topic started by: fuelfarmer on February 15, 2012, 07:21:57 PM

Title: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: fuelfarmer on February 15, 2012, 07:21:57 PM
I am looking for a low cost way to measure hot water flow in a two inch pipe. Hot water meters are big $$$.  I am tempted to buy a cold water meter to see how it holds up to 140 to 150 F water. Any clever and cheap ideas would be appreciated.

Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: sailawayrb on February 19, 2012, 09:14:36 PM
I don't think you will get good results (i.e., accurate measurement or very long life) using a cold water meter with 150 F water.  Not sure what you are trying to measure...just actual flow rate or totalized flow?  If just actual flow rate, you might be able to build a venturi tube:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venturi_effect

You would need to calibrate it.  Then depending how you using this flow rate info, you might want to use an electronic pressure sensor and scale it for your application.

Bob B.
Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: fuelfarmer on February 20, 2012, 05:53:58 AM
I want to measure actual flow so i can calculate BTU out put. The boiler has a tempering valve, so the flow will vary a lot.

A friend told me about this flow meter. It should show the flow close enough.

http://www.ppe.com/11cat/0505.pdf
Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: sailawayrb on February 20, 2012, 07:49:06 AM
Yes, if your flow rate is between 20 and 100 GPM, that should work very well.  10% flow rate accuracy is more than adequate for most hydronic heating performace calculations.  Being a spring type flow meter, I wonder what it's cracking pressure and head loss is?

Bob B.
Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: LowGear on February 20, 2012, 09:30:48 AM
20 GPM is a lot of water - 1200 GPH.

Have you checked with Badger?  They're "Read O Matics" are pretty neat.

Casey
Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: cognos on February 20, 2012, 10:11:32 AM
I've used these guys before. Good telephone customer service to aid in selection. They should have some sort of variable-area flow meter (visual indicator of flow) for you for under $100.

No connection to them.

http://www.coleparmer.ca/Category/Flowmeters/1686
Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: rl71459 on February 20, 2012, 10:21:40 AM
I also have used Cole Parmer, They are a top notch outfit. Great support.

Rob
Title: Re: Two inch hot water meter?
Post by: fuelfarmer on February 20, 2012, 07:59:00 PM
Thanks for the info. I already ordered a flow meter with temp gauge from PPE for close to $160 plus shipping. If you look around the two inch stuff costs a good bit of money.  The flow I want to measure will be around 50 GPM.