There is a large estate auction here in Illinois next weekend. Listed are some real Listers and many others, a lifetime of collecting going on the auction block.
Should anyone care to read the sale bill and view the many photos go to www.auctionzip.com, enter auctioneer ID# 14498 at the top right, click on Helmuth estate to view photos and sale bill.
I'm not going, it would be very expensive for me if I did go.
flywheel
Wow, look at the stuff this guy has. Wish I was closer and had some $.
http://www.auctionzip.com/cgi-bin/photopanel.cgi?listingid=882898&category=0&zip=&kwd=
Thanks, Geno
He who dies with the most toys wins ........... this guy was a winner :o :o
WOW!
Am I glad I don't live near this auction. I'm a recovering auction junkie and latent hoarder. My blood pressure is already up and the auctioneer hasn't even cleared the mic. I wonder how much guilt this guy carried with him for letting all this machinery go to Satan's doorstep?
I wonder what those engines were that look like the grandparents to my horizontal Witte?
Good Luck to my Illinois brothers and sisters and be careful out there.
Casey
after looking through that collection of iron
i feel a lot better about myself!
i don't have the dreaded "iron" disease that bad yet
:)
not yet anyway
bob g
We are 6 hours away and heading out Friday, hope to be able to preview them. Should be well attnded, been advertised all over the net. Hopefully we will be bring one home with us.
I do have the dreaded "Iron Disease" that bad, unfortunately, I also have the poor white trash that is flat broke disease.
Come on Powerball!!
Ron
Quote from: playdiesel on October 12, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
We are 6 hours away and heading out Friday, hope to be able to preview them. Should be well attnded, been advertised all over the net. Hopefully we will be bring one home with us.
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Its only two hours south of me, if I went I know my truck would not be large enough! I'm not going, I'm not going, I'm not going......................................flywheel
might as well admit it,,
you're going!
:)
bob g
I am not totaly aware of who is who when talking about those who post both here and on "that other" forum but there is going to be quite a few engine heads there. If any of you go you will know be by my blue ball cap with "CRC" in a circle in white. I am taking enough money to buy the one I want, if someone else goes higher,, they paid too much, LOL
It's times like this that my bank manager is really pleased that I live thousands of miles away from America....
...and I curse the fact.
I'd love that CS twin....
Quote from: AdeV on October 13, 2010, 06:44:16 AM
It's times like this that my bank manager is really pleased that I live thousands of miles away from America....
...and I curse the fact.
I'd love that CS twin....
You guys have all the Listers anyway, stay over there! LOL
I'm 2 hours south of there... If I would have known earlier I could have planned to go... We could have had a small microcogen meet... plus I have the same disease that Ron has, lol
Wow this is an ??? ??? ??? ??? collection of iron....I wondered the history behind of this farmer " collector"...Good luck Flywheel and to all that going but they they are silent!!!!.... if is possible lets us know the outcome. ;D ;D ;D
Shipo it is my understanding that he was a dealer for Lister and the engines are all trade ins. Most are supposably VERY used, have you ever been around anything Amish have used? LOL.
Now make sense the quantity....folks remember they are VERY USED so don't waste your time in to go...I hope that help you Playdiesel....Good luck
hehehehe ;D
Dude! That will just add to the allure........you get to rebuild it your way. ::)
Ron
Report from the auction. The complete singles, 3 to 6 HP went from $650 to $1800. The 10/2 went for $4000. We made the guy pay for the 10/2, what we drove 6 hours to buy but didnt get it. We did get a pretty early 6/1 tha is complete and loose and a totaly cool Bamfords 8 HP single that is mostly all there but apart. Buy of the day IMO was a pair of electric flywheels tha sold for $20 or $30 while we were loading our engines.
4grand seems like an obscene price for a 10/2, but then again the guy that bought it likely is not looking for an engine to do work, but
rather a collectible.
sorta like folks that spend a half million dollars for an antique car, he isn't looking for a daily driver but rather some sort of investment or something to fill out a collection.
i suppose it makes sense on some level
just makes it hard for guys to get engine's to do work, when you got to compete with collectors
bob g
Sorry mobile_bob, But I'm with Jens. Fools and their money are soon strangers. (politically corrected version)
Don't get me wrong. I think this $4000 is far better spent than a big night on cocaine but amateurs with too much money just screw the auction process. When I was really strung out on auctions I finally stopped going to Saturday and Sunday auctions because of the class of person you had to bid against. ;D After a couple of mornings walking out to the truck and being totally surprised at what I bought I went cold turkey for almost five years. ("I'm not the craziest bastard in Seattle" is a dangerous philosophy at a auction.) Now, if I make five bids in earnest its a big day. Jumping the bid by two and otherwise chumping neophytes that's another story. It's the auctions with free drinks and poo-poos you have to be careful at. Cute costumes on the servers does not make the deal any sweeter the next day.
Casey
Hey, I forgot to ask.
Does anyone remember what the two Wittes went for?
Casey
Quote from: LowGear on October 17, 2010, 12:25:11 PM
Hey, I forgot to ask.
Does anyone remember what the two Wittes went for?
Casey
I only saw one sell. It was loose but had been hit or dropped on the valve gear and had some other welds and repairs, as I remember around $700.
Quote from: mobile_bob on October 12, 2010, 08:57:56 PM
might as well admit it,,
you're going!
:)
bob g
I did not go - it was indeed very tempting and not very far for me. I sometimes have the same problem as lowgear at auctions.
I still have to make the trip over to Indiana to pick up my Witte dieselelectric, its about 230 miles on way.
flywheel
I dragged home the VA. It needs TLC but the heart is there to make a nice engine. After a good looking over I started collecting the parts I need. Hope to be making smoke and noise soon.
Bob
It's the auctions with free drinks and poo-poos you have to be careful at. Cute costumes on the servers does not make the deal any sweeter the next day.
Casey
Casey I can assure you that this was not a problem here. You even had to pay for the water. LOL I don't do many auctions because I could easily spend way more than what I need to. I went just to meet friends. In fact when I called my wife from the hotel room and told her about all of the iron her remark was "You promiced you were not going to buy anyrhing. That is why you took the bike." Playdiesel was sitting right beside when the conservation was going on. Now Scott a friend from Chicago bought a pallett of VA parts which someone should have looked at better. The complete engine was there so for a few hundred bucks more he will have a new 8/1 or if he can find a head a new VA. I already have a buyer in the UK looking for a head and the shipping might be free because the guy from LA that went over last weekend to pick up 3 engines has not been shipped yet. So he may have very easily got the buy of the auction.
As for the prices of the engines that is why I think auctions work the best. They will bring just what someone thinks something is worth. There is no reason the guy who bought the twin will not use it. These engines were made to work. It will just work more years than the clones and with more class. if it is fixed up right there is no reason it wont be around another 50 or 60 years. I wonder how many years a clone would last?? DD
Several us diesel addicts were talking before the auction, what will they sell for? the twin? and the singles? All had opinions,, but nobody could say, "seen one like it sell for X,, Hmmmmm ???
Could ya'll please do us fools a favor?
Next time you see a complete Lister 10-2 at auction in the USA please let us know what it sold for.
Get my drift? ::)