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Started by rcavictim, September 26, 2009, 12:27:13 AM

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rcavictim

"This just in....Ontario man turns a bulldozer into a wind turbine....film at eleven."   ;D

Note: many pictures have been added and they will be put on this page as I proceed wherever I can find room.  I apologize for the non-chronological order they appear in. Please scroll down to see them all. Click on them to see a larger version.

Well, I've been waiting for the right place and time to post a picture of my handiwork.  Seems like a good way to start the "Projects" forum here and set the bar high at the same time.  :)

I started gathering steel and other bits and pieces that I figured would be useful for such a project, just a dream in my mind back about ten years ago.  Three years ago I purchased a 1957 Drott crawler loader less bucket and engine because it seemed like a good thing to have at the time although I really had no idea what I was going to do with it.  A plan popped into my head one day that if I were to use this heavy lump of steel as a mobile base for a Vertical Axis Wind Turbine, I could avoid all the usual county approval, permitting and inspection nonsense usually associated with a turbine as large as this one would be.  I would also avoid any increase in my property taxes which they apply if you add to your infrastructure as they consider stuff like this to increase the value of your property if it has a foundation.  The other advantage would be that I could locate it next to my shop for easiest possible access to machines, welder power and tools.  Once completed I could test it also next to the shop where the winds are plenty strong enough at the height this thing is, then once the bugs are worked out I can drive it into the field where it will get maximum clear air.

Turning a tracked crawler into a mobile six storey tall VAWT would be a great and unique storey for "How I Pimped My Ride!"   :D

A 6-1/2 HP industrial 4-stroke gasoline Honda clone engine from Princess Auto moves this beast through a centrifugal clutch, chain and sprocket reduction into a beefy 10:1 reduction worm gearbox that then spins a Ford truck driveshaft energizing the original transaxle of the crawler.  It will do a slow walking pace.  When the time comes to move this I want a TV film crew here.  This will look like NASA moving their Saturn-V rocket from the VAB to the launch pad!

I got started on the 4" solid steel upper mainshaft, brake and bearings sub-assembly three summers ago. Two summers ago I was too ill to work on it.  Last summer I gave this my all from May through early November and got it to the point you see here in the picture.  This picture was taken this past spring.  I was sick again all this year but was able to get back to work on the project intermittently about 3 weeks ago. I am now installing the long split vertical driveshaft and speed increasing gearbox components. The generator head(s) will sit in the engine compartment of the crawler where their weight will be useful as ballast and access for service will be most convenient. My hopes to have it completed this year were dashed but now I have hopes of completion next year.  This absolutely represents the most ambitious, totally scratch built DIY project I have ever tackled in my entire life.  What is amazing is that I have accomplished all of the work on-site totally alone, never with any second helping pair of hands or benefit of a crane.  That 28 foot yellow lifting gantry made from TV tower was something I built ten years ago to facilitate the assembly of large Tesla coils outdoors.  It was just the thing in the way of a skyhook I needed to enable this project.  Along the way I have had to improvise several unique lifting tools and fixtures to accomplish my mission.  With the on board electric crane winch I will be able to install the blades or swap them for improved ones later all by myself and without ever having to pay for an expensive crane rental.  Out of necessity for me this entire design was about least capitol cost, and the capability of doing it all with only one pair of hands.  Also in the design is the ease in which blades and generator heads can be swapped in and out as a R&D turbine.

The four vertical blades will be ~2 feet wide and 21 feet long each.  They will rotate on the ends of those eight outrigger radial arms sweeping a circle 24 feet in diameter.  The blades will be attached at their 1/3rd and 2/3rd points with the tops of the blades at 50 feet height.  The lower radial arm I am standing on in the picture is at a height of 36 feet.  I plan to DIY the blades myself.  The swept area of this turbine will be 40 square meters.

The structure as shown is absolutely stable with the six outrigger screw jack stands wound up for travel.  In the cranked down position the tower feels like it is in a 20 cubic meters of concrete foundation.  Very solid!

I will post further information and detail pictures of the construction in time.

I am 55 now and suffer disability.  I have to tell you that I was very aware that putting off this project any longer would have likely killed it.  Even now I am unable to do what I could last year and am so thankful that I found the means and ambition to tackle this when I did.  My point is that if any of you out there have any grand project ideas that would benefit from a strong youthful and healthy body, tackle them NOW!

I'll be so proud to see this finished!  It is expected to make enough power to not only get me off grid but also offset some of my home heating bills by running resistance heaters.  In the future I hope to tackle a DIY ground sourced heat pump which if powered by this turbine, with a COP of say 3, will be enough to heat my home as well as light it for free!  It appears that in this new forum we have the right place to discuss control systems, battery banks, inverters and the refrigeration compressors and heat exchangers that will all be employed in my home freedom power system!

Cheers!

Picture explanation:  The second picture shows the IHC pancake step up gearbox I used from a large farm bailer.  This simple 1:7.5 ratio, two gear box uses massive straight cut gears about 2-1/2" wide.  It takes the 60 RPM from the turbine and steps it up to 450 RPM at the 18.5" 4-groove vee belt pulley below where the DC starter motor gets connected. Two additional pulley grooves are available for a small secondary generator head to charge the starter battery and whatever. Below this a 90 degree 1:1 box. also sourced from the bailer unit provides a horizontal drive for the big generator.  For now I am trying a further 1:4 increaser to allow the use of an 1800+ RPM genhead.  Picture of that additional drive is located lower in the page.  I was fortunate to acquire two identical IHC units as shown so that I not only have a spare gearbox of each type but also two massive 5" wide x 33" diameter flywheels to play with on another project.
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

rcavictim

#1
Here is that little 6-1/2 HP engine that would normally power a push lawn mower.  Ha ha!

Here I have located the crawler into the work location and leveled it.  The lifting gantry has been brought in close and the first tower leg, the one with the ladder on it has just been installed and then the one across from it.  At this stage of the project it would take a whole day to lift one tower leg into position and weld it.  The tower legs are 4-1/2" OD., 1/8" wall welded seam steel irrigation pipe.  I used many, many 21 foot lengths in this project which I got a good deal on from a truck rollover situation.  The tower legs are 31-1/2 feet or 1&1/2 lengths of pipe long each.
 
Pictures:I apologize for the jumping around in chronological sequence. The view looking down is after three legs have been installed.  By this point it was not so nerve racking to climb to the top of the ladder!  :)
The last pic here is almost current (Nov. 2009), of the lower part of the machine with work proceeding on the powertrain at this time.  The I-beam is for a motorized winch or chainfall to make it easy to install/swap/upgrade the bearboxes and generator heads.  Out of economic necessity the entire design facilitates being able to be both assembled without a crane but also maintained including airfoil installation and swapping out later by a single person.
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

rcavictim

#2
BTW, the tower legs are 4-1/2" OD., 1/8" wall welded seam steel irrigation pipe.  I used many, many 21 foot lengths in this project which I got a good deal on from a truck rollover situation.  The tower legs are 31-1/2 feet or 1&1/2 lengths of pipe long each.

Pictures:
These pictures show the pre-assembled weldment which is the upper mainshaft, mainbearing, secondary bearing and brake assembly.  Assembled as shown it weighs 900 lbs.  I disassembled it and lifted the empty frame up topside when the time came and it fit perfectly into the space reserved for it.  After welding it home I lifted the components with the service platform winch crane and reassembled it.

The lower tier of the radial arm system which the four airfoil blades will bolt to was manufactured as one piece at ground level and then lifted and dropped into position on the mounting flange plate up top of the 4" solid steel main short shaft.  The upper vertical shaft and four upper radials were much harder to install piece by piece and welded together at height since I had no skyhook available that was higher than they were.
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

mobile_bob

i remember when you first postulated this project on another forum, and to be honest it appeared to be way
to ambitious for a single man.

my hat is off to you though!

you have the extremely difficult tasks behind you, and now you have the wind engine and power generation
tasks ahead of you, both of which seem like a cakewalk compared to what the project took to get this far.

i am sure you are aware of Ed from windstuffnow.com he is into the vertical windgenerators and might be of assistance
if you need any when it comes to what you need up top.

what rpm do you expect to have to work with down below?
are you trying for 120 or 240 vac at around 60hz?  or is Very strong DC the goal?

recently i finally came across what i feel is the holy grail of alternator design, and equipped with it and a few hours
i think a person could build just about any alternator of any size he so chose and get one that would be likely
better than 85% efficient in the process.

if you would like to get a copy it is titled

Dynamo-Electric Machinery
a manual for students of Electrotechnics
by
Silvanus P. Thompson

864 pages with 30 bi and trifold plates in the back

i have a 4th edition from about 1894 and it is most excellent in illustrating, design concerns, math involved, and scale
plates and full descriptions of a large number of successful designs of the day. Most of which were well into the 90% efficient range
even back then. i have been looking for a book that covers this topic as this one does for at least 30 years, and i just happened to stumble
across the title while looking for something else that i don't recall just now.  the book has been through many reprintings up to about 2005
i think.

it only seems a fitting tribute to your project to fit it with a custom built alternator assembled from some of the stuff salvage from
what is avialable today, such as a large ID stator houseing and brg end plates. Basically find yourself a huge induction motor with a good
stator core, rotorshaft, brgs and housing and build up your own rotor to make it as make as many poles as needed, and rewind the stator to get the voltage you are after,, all the details are in the book to get you close enough for some test coils.

i don't think i would go with permanent magnet rotor/field either, most machines can be built with excitation currents only about one percent
of output capacity anyway and with a wound rotor a purpose built regulator could control the beast in my opinion.

thanks for posting this project, it is inspirational

bob g

rcavictim

Thanx for the compliments Bob.  Yes the hardest work is now behind me.  I agree with your suggestion about making my own alternator. I should have the capability of spinning my gen head between about 500 and 2700 RPM depending on whether or not I use a secondary step up gearbox.
I am dealing with this part of the project now.

It turns out I have acquired two possible large induction motors which might serve here.  
One is a like new, totally sealed 20 HP, 575 volt- 3-phase, 6-pole motor (1175 RPM).  I could use it as is by resonating it with capacitors, or machine the rotor and add neodemium magnets.  The high voltage is convenient as it will reduce line losses in the long wiring across the field and the pole count is attractive for a lower speed option.  I wish it was twice as big on the HP rating though.  The windings are only rated at 20 amps and the only time I will get my full turbine power is when the motor is driven to rated shaft speed because as you decrease the motor speed (frequency) your magnetics can only support diminishing electrical power levels.  It has not escaped me that an induction motor like this, unlike the issues with wound armatures,  would not be in danger of rotor exposion operating at 2X or even 3X shaft speed.  By overspeeding it I could run with more voltage and get considerably more power out of my 20 amp wire limit.  I don't know how high I could safely push the voltage though.  Maybe I could get away with approaching 1000 VAC on a 575 volt motor since it will be dry inside, sealed from the weather.

I also have a 100 HP, 2-pole (3450 RPM) motor. This is also 3-phase and 575 volt high voltage.  The windings are rated at 98 amps continuous, nice!  I have spun this beast up to half speed (1800 RPM) with my Changfa 1115 using resonating caps to self excite it as a induction alternator.  I was able to pull quite a few KW's out of it at 30 Hz into a light bulb and space heater load bank.  I was thinking of the neo magnet route and a stator rewind to install the maximum possible pole count.  I think I figured I could fit 8 poles into this frame.  That would be best but hugely challenging for me.  The motor is potted with epoxy resin and getting the old wire out without ruining the stator would be a big challenge.  Rewinding it would cost a fortune in copper and I don't think I am up to it. If this motor were a 4 pole I would use it at reduced speed in a heartbeat!  I have stripped out an ST-12 head a couple of years ago and it is still waiting for me to rewind it.  :(  Latest info:  I am now considering to use this 100 HP motor without modification as a self-excited induction generator.  With gearboxes now in place I will be able to spin it at speeds in the powerband of the turbine between 1500 and 2700 RPM.  That will provide ~25-45 Hz output without overvoltage or iron core saturation issues. 

In the spirit of your mentioning the old school motor textbook, it occurred to me that I might find a large diameter stator open frame motor with wound armature from an ancient building elevator.  I made some inquiries but fell short of acquisiton.  I am committed now as to what physical size of alternator/generator I can use.  I have provided just enough clearance for my 100 HP motor.  I figure that will accomodate just about any fairly modern motor conversion or real synchronous alternator (like an ST head). I would like to try and find a copy of your book!

Since I plan to be be off-grid I do not need to worry about making my system put out 60 Hz, my plan is to use wild voltage and wild frequency AC directly in resistance heaters, possibly with crude voltage regulation provided by a motorized 3-phase variac.  After that I will use the crudely regulated voltage, wild frequency to charge batteries via a custom built regulating rectifier.  Critical loads in the home will all get power from a bank of 12 volt inverters wired to various circuits.  I gave up trying to acquire a 48 volt single inverter capable of all the power I want to process and over the past few years acquired enough 12 volt inverters, both sine wave as well as modified-sine wave to get a good start.  Basically each exising circuit breaker in the main panel will get it's own dedicated inverter.

I acquired a large number of ex-telecom 12 volt, 105 AH, AGM batteries two years ago.  I have had them wired in parallel groups of four in a string (48 volts) on constant float charge since I also got a pair of 48 volt telecom battery chargers to keep them well until I am ready to use them.  I discovered to my dismay that this has caused me to loose a lot of batteries as they have been dropping like flies.  One battery of the four will start to hog current causing an overvoltage on the other three taking them out as well.  So I loose four batteries instead of one.  Since I am unlikely to get a new set of batteries due to a lack of funding, because of this experience I have considered that having a massive 12 volt buss with as many batteries as I can get, each individually breakered at about 1/3rd C to the main buss is the best way to go as far as best battery life goes.  The need to equalize each cell in the entire pack goes away.  There is no-hope of equalizing a large batch of well used lead acids batteries.  I spent some time on an EV forum and those guys with 120 volt+ battery banks really have to worry about getting every single cell matched when they pull hundreds of amps routinely out of the pack and that current has to go through every single cell.  A slightly weak cell will easily get forced into voltage reversal under such conditions and explode.  Used batteries are almost useless in an EV project and even brand new ones pretty much have to all be from the same batch and then conductance selected as well.  Even brand new batteries that have sat on the store shelf for 6 months are to be avoided.

Actually although I had heard of WindstuffNow I have not studied that resource or communicated with Ed.  I'll have to check him out, thanx!  I did contact a local university professor who had recently worked with a commercial VAWT project for an Ontario company.  I got a few helpful tips from an email and the encouragemnent that my machine should produce 10 kW in 'not so big' winds. My offer to involve the university by using my turbine as a teaching tool for blade development fell on ears that were too comfortable and not looking for 'having to get out of the comfy chair type' projects.

Since Darrius type turbines are not self-starting, making one grid connected with an induction generator is an ideal situation because the mains connection and motor can be used to start the turbine.  Being off-grid introduces the challenge of having to engineer a starting motor system.  I am leaning towards a 24 volt starter motor with a couple of truck batteries on the device, clutched into the powertrain at some point with a sprag or clutch.  If possible I would like to find a PM DC motor that could be engaged all the time which would double as a charger to keep the starting batteries at full charge.  It appears that I may need around 10-15 HP @ ~1800 RPM to start the machine.  A starter from a highway diesel tractor will have the power, but coupling it would be a challenge requiring elimination of the Bendix drive.  My VW diesel has a PM 12 volt starter motor.  Bob, do you know of any large format 28 volt truck starters that are permanent magnet?  Reason being is I might be able to use one dual duty as a battery charging generator as well.  A starter motor is not designed for a lot of rotations so the bronze bushings would have to be replaced with ball bearings.  Arggg. Every aspect of this project is a project in itself!!!!!

Well these are a few of the issues I am dealing with for your consideration.

Peace.

Late entry.  I have attached additional photos of the build process.
I have added more photos of the build process.  I especially like the third one taken from up on a long extension ladder which was perched on the service platform allowing me to weld the upper radial arms into place.  Looking straight down into the tower.  I had to overcome my fear of heights and be ever warry of my vertigo when working up there all alone.  

The scariest thing I had to do was walk out on the lower radial arms to the end to unbolt the lifting jig from the outer end plate of the upper radial arms after they were lifted and welded into position.   :o
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

billswan

rcavictim

Wow great read and great project. ;D

Wish we were neighbors I would lend a hand from time to time......

Billswan

PS take plenty of vitamins and minerals, my health improved greatly after starting down that road!!
And yes they all cost to much but crappy health costs to.
16/1 Metro DI at work 900rpm and 7000watts

10/1 Omega in a state of failure

AdeV

I'd like to wholeheartedly agree with Bill - wow, what a project! I'm especially impressed that it was a single-handed build; that's a lot of metal for one man to move around...

As I expect to have similar issues when I finally head for foreign shores, I'm watching this one with interest.
Cheers!
Ade.
--------------
Lister CS 6/1 with ST5
Lister JP4 looking for a purpose...
Looking for a Changfa in my life...

Henry W


panaceabeachbum

Thats really neat .  I missed a opurtunity to buy a 200 foot tall microwave relay tower on an acre of land from the phone company about 10 years ago just a few block from my house , kicked my self ever since.  It has a platform at the top 30x30 feet and would have been ideal for a wind gen project

rbodell

Quote from: panaceabeachbum on September 29, 2009, 08:08:33 AM
Thats really neat .  I missed a opurtunity to buy a 200 foot tall microwave relay tower on an acre of land from the phone company about 10 years ago just a few block from my house , kicked my self ever since.  It has a platform at the top 30x30 feet and would have been ideal for a wind gen project

man that is big enough to build a house on. Think of the view.

When you are home leave the elevator up, that way if somebody comes to visit you, you know they are not just coming to hang out because your house is convenient. They really want to see you.
I am looking forward to senility,
you meet so many new friends
every day.

rcavictim

Quote from: panaceabeachbum on September 29, 2009, 08:08:33 AM
Thats really neat .  I missed a opurtunity to buy a 200 foot tall microwave relay tower on an acre of land from the phone company about 10 years ago just a few block from my house , kicked my self ever since.  It has a platform at the top 30x30 feet and would have been ideal for a wind gen project

There is a self supporting monster tower like that about 10 miles from my location.  Had sugar scoop cornucopia horn antennas on it as part of the Trans Canada Microwave Bell System and the Northern Electric TD-2 system until about 6 years ago.  I remember when the site was decommissioned and they auctioned off the diesel generator.  The towers and block house building are still up and not offered for sale because the telco owner recognizes the value of holding onto this assett.  Getting a permit to put up a tower like this now would be difficult.  That one is grandfathered.

You could have likely made money renting space on that tower had you bought it for wireless internet and other modern services.  Not buying that place at the time if it was within your means was perhaps an unforunate lack of vision.  Yes a house with a terrific view and a wind turbine could have been yours as well.  Revenue from hosting antennas could have covered your cost of living.

Pictures:  The first photo below shows the secondary 1:4 ratio gearbox output which is the hi-speed port  (~1500-2700 RPM) connection for the large primary generator head which will mount on the rails provided.  Second pic shows the package of upper main shaft, two bearings and large drum brake after being installed and reassembled into the top of the tower. Also show is the 4" solid steel mainshaft on the lathe and the massive dual roller spherical main bearing, the earliest work done on the project three years ago.
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

mobile_bob

did you ever get a large slow speed alternator sorted out for this project?

i would love to find a stator with about a 24" id, the rest i can figure out on my own
it sure would be fun to build a large slowspeed alternator for that project of yours.

iirc you were entertaining the idea of modifying or building an alternator for your windmachine, so
i got to thinking,, hmmm maybe i should ask about it?

bob g

rcavictim

Quote from: mobile_bob on September 29, 2009, 09:46:51 PM
did you ever get a large slow speed alternator sorted out for this project?

i would love to find a stator with about a 24" id, the rest i can figure out on my own
it sure would be fun to build a large slowspeed alternator for that project of yours.

iirc you were entertaining the idea of modifying or building an alternator for your windmachine, so
i got to thinking,, hmmm maybe i should ask about it?

bob g

Hi Bob,

Boy a 24" stator would be a sweet place to begin a DIY slow speed alternator alright!  Good luck finding one.  You may have missed my comments about my possible alternator above so here they are specifically reprinted.

It turns out I have acquired two possible large induction motors which might serve here.  
One is in my current avatar with the end cap removed.  It is a like new, totally sealed 20 HP, 575 volt- 3-phase, 6-pole motor (1175 RPM).  I could use it as is by resonating it with capacitors, or machine the rotor and add neodemium magnets.  The high voltage is convenient as it will reduce line losses in the long wiring across the field and the pole count is attractive for a lower speed option.  I wish it was twice as big on the HP rating though.  The windings are only rated at 20 amps and the only time I will get my full turbine power is when the motor is driven to rated shaft speed because as you decrease the motor speed (frequency) your magnetics can only support diminishing electrical power levels.  It has not escaped me that an induction motor like this, unlike the issues with wound armatures,  would not be in danger of rotor exposion operating at 2X or even 3X shaft speed.  By overspeeding it I could run with more voltage and get considerably more power out of my 20 amp wire limit.  I don't know how high I could safely push the voltage though.  Maybe I could get away with approaching 1000 VAC on a 575 volt motor since it will be dry inside, sealed from the weather.

I also have a 100 HP, 2-pole (3450 RPM) motor. This is also 3-phase and 575 volt high voltage.  The windings are rated at 98 amps continuous, nice!  I have spun this beast up to half speed (1800 RPM) with my Changfa 1115 using resonating caps to self excite it as a induction alternator.  I was able to pull quite a few KW's out of it at 30 Hz into a light bulb and space heater load bank.  I was thinking of the neo magnet route and a stator rewind to install the maximum possible pole count.  I think I figured I could fit 8 poles into this frame.  That would be best but hugely challenging for me.  The motor is potted with epoxy resin and getting the old wire out without ruining the stator would be a big challenge.  Rewinding it would cost a fortune in copper and I don't think I am up to it. If this motor were a 4 pole I would use it at reduced speed in a heartbeat!  I have stripped out an ST-12 head a couple of years ago and it is still waiting for me to rewind it.
 

Right now my first alternator is likely to be the 6 pole, 20 HP induction motor with resonating capacitors.  Not the ideal but capable of significant power and I already have it.  I only need to purchase a couple hundred dollars worth of surplus motor run caps.  The way my system is designed I have a built in I-beam lift system and it will be extremely easy to remove and swap the heaviest of alternator/generator heads from ground level in front of the machine.

BTW, if anyone in say Ontario knows of the whereabouts of an ancient open frame generator with large diameter and lots of pole pieces like the ones used early in the last century on water wheel power stations, or perhaps 1930's vintage elevator motors, please let me know!!!

I also asked you in a later post if you knew of any permanent magnet 24 volt heavy truck engine starter motors?  I need to make up a DC , battery powered starter motor for my non-self starting darrius turbine.  I guestimate that I'll require an intermittent 10-15 HP at about 1800 RPM or a bit less.

In addition to the all gearbox speed increasing path to the main generator head I am setting up a parallel belt drive system to support the starter motor and a smaller kVA auxiliary generator head to maintain charge on the starter batteries and perhaps make more power than the main gen head can in lower wind conditions.

Pictures:  First image shows the two piece vertical drive shaft and steady bearing.  The third picture shows the heavy 100 HP, 550 volt, 3-phase, 3600 RPM induction motor that I am now looking at using as the self excited induction generator.  It has a continuous current rating of 98 amps per leg so there is no way I'll burn it out.  I will not be overvolting it so my selection of reasonably priced motor run caps needed to make it generate will be easy.  I have tested it at 1800 RPM on my Changfa1115 and it easily put out several kW at half nameplate voltage and 30 Hz. It will match the power curve of my turbine output well from 1500 RPM to 2700 RPM producing from about 20 Hz to 45 Hz output frequency with no core saturation issues. The last image shows the Changfa spinning it at 1800 RPM as an islanded, self-excited induction generator.

"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.

mobile_bob

sorry it took so long to respond, somehow i got sidetracked and forgot  ???

as for the pm hd truck starter question? i am unaware of any big truck alternators that have pm fields

sure would be cool to build up a monster axial flux alternator for that machine of yours, something scaled
up version of those that the otherpower boys build everyday.

bob g

rcavictim

Quote from: mobile_bob on October 15, 2009, 01:21:04 PM
sorry it took so long to respond, somehow i got sidetracked and forgot  ???

as for the pm hd truck starter question? i am unaware of any big truck alternators that have pm fields

sure would be cool to build up a monster axial flux alternator for that machine of yours, something scaled
up version of those that the otherpower boys build everyday.

bob g

You're also a busy guy Bob, no prob.  :D  Yes a BIG axial flux machine, well I think I'd prefer a BIG radial flux machine like the old dynamos in power plants.  I have an idea that one might take a large iron wheel and put neo magnets around the periphery.  For pole pieces on might find a surplus buy of some sort of power xfmer in an E-I formation and if lucky even re-use one of the winding bobbins.  Power xfmers from microwave ovens come to mind.  One could weld up a steel frame to hold all the poles in position.

Truth is I won't have time to go that route initially but it is always something to think about.
"There are more worlds than the one you can hold in your hand."   Albert Hosteen, Navajo spiritual elder and code-breaker,  X-Files TV Series.