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Buy/Sell/Trade => Items Wanted/Want to Buy => Topic started by: Randybee1 on May 13, 2010, 06:16:44 AM

Title: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Randybee1 on May 13, 2010, 06:16:44 AM
Hey guys.. still looking for an offset idler bolt. Anyone have any???
Randy B
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: XYZER on May 13, 2010, 07:37:06 AM
Randy,
I am in the process of running a batch of offset bolts. If you need a special let me know. .040" offset will be the standard.
Dave
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: mike90045 on May 13, 2010, 07:49:04 AM
What will priceing be ?
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Randybee1 on May 13, 2010, 10:42:17 AM
Great..please reserve me one!
Randy B
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: cgwymp on May 13, 2010, 11:15:05 AM
I'd be interested as well.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Carlb on May 14, 2010, 06:57:54 AM
I'll take one as well,  just let me know when you have them done and I will send the money.  Do you accept Paypal?

Thanks

Carl.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Dail R H on May 15, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
   I need two.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Rom on May 15, 2010, 09:31:07 PM
I'll take 2!

Many Thanks
Rom
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Crumpite on May 17, 2010, 04:25:28 PM
Great !

I need one myself.
Keep us posted !
Crumpite
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: lrak on May 24, 2010, 09:45:11 AM
I am interested in one as well.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: lowspeedlife on May 28, 2010, 03:35:01 PM
please add me to the list Dave.

  Scott r.


Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: rec409 on June 04, 2010, 08:29:34 PM
Please ADD me to the list  for TWO one for me and one for my pops..
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: rec409 on June 04, 2010, 08:32:46 PM
oh yeah how much are they,,,, anyways it dont matter,, Just wanted to know to let pops Know.
Ill send asap.
When will you have them done.?
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: luv2weld on June 05, 2010, 09:48:09 AM
I need 2 of them also.

Thanks

Ralph
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: XYZER on June 10, 2010, 09:54:02 PM
It appears from the demand I didn't make enough to fill all of the wants. I have PM'd the first posts to want offset bolts and only a few have responded or have seen there messages. The man with the first cash wins. I have 4 left and am kicking myself that I didn't make more. I felt the "oids" were no longer and did not want my heirs going through my stuff and wondering what these funny bolts are for.... ;D

Dave
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: captndiet on June 15, 2010, 08:38:40 AM
XYZER,

Check your PM and e-mail.

Will take a bolt now.

Jeff
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: mike90045 on June 21, 2010, 09:34:09 AM
Got the bolt, but after I got back from visiting my engine.  I have to spend more time inside the engine, every time I pick up a part, I'm amazed at how big and beefy they are.  I'll have to install it on my July/Sept visit, when I should be able to anchor it down, and tighten up the alternator belt, and finally put it to work.

Question - is there enough splash oil, to get to the upper rod/wrist pin bearing ?  i just don't see how oil gets up there, bounces off the hot piston, and into the bearing.  And no way to pre-lube it either.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: Crofter on June 21, 2010, 11:15:44 AM
Have not heard of piston pin problems. Oil slung aloft by the big end and dipper would be overtaken by the piston on its way down. Also oil scraped off the cylinder walls by the rings should be available to the outer end of the pin. Big grooves in the rod bushing store lots of oil.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: mike90045 on June 21, 2010, 11:23:30 AM
Quote from: Crofter on June 21, 2010, 11:15:44 AM
.....Also oil scraped off the cylinder walls by the rings should be available to the outer end of the pin. Big grooves in the rod bushing store lots of oil.
Ah....that's where it must get the bulk of it.
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: LincTex on October 12, 2011, 11:37:01 AM
XYZER no longer makes the bolts.

Does anyone else have a source?

I have a machinist friend that can make them if we order enough...
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: luv2weld on October 13, 2011, 09:01:10 AM
LincTex,

add me to your list for 3, please.

Ralph
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: quinnf on October 13, 2011, 09:37:31 AM
Another way to skin that cat is to simply machine an eccentric bushing to offset your existing idler bolt.  You'll first have to turn down the region of the pin that protrudes through the crankcase to the diameter of the threaded portion.  It's about 0.050" if I remember correctly.  Then make a series of brass bushings drilled off center to slip over the pin.  I did that on a friend's mill a while ago.  Took a piece of brass round, turned it down so that its OD was a tight fit in the hole that the idler pin goes through, then drilled it off-center on the mill, holding it on the table using a 3-jaw lathe chuck.  Drilled the first one 0.010" off, the next 0.020" . . . and the last one 0.050" off center.  At that point the wall thickness of the bushing became too skinny to hold effectively.  As it turned out the 0.030" one was too tight, so I used the 0.020" offset bushing.  Installed it and turned the engine over by hand and listened to the silence.  The lack of clack-clack was music to my ears.  Engine is now running the way it should have in the first place. 

If you can't get a new pin, talk to your machinist friend and just bush your existing pin.  Here's a pic my friend took. 

Quinn


(http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k70/quinnf_01/Lister%20Diesel%20Stuff/AllFinished.jpg)

Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: markste on October 11, 2012, 01:47:29 AM
Tell me about price..? :'(
Title: Re: Need offset Idler bolt
Post by: quinnf on October 11, 2012, 12:12:56 PM
This is a DIY solution to the problem.  You need a lathe and either a drill press or a vertical mill to make one.  Nobody is manufacturing them any longer.

Quinn