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TINY HOUSES/THINKING SMALL => Foundation or mobile => Topic started by: Henry W on March 06, 2017, 09:53:00 PM

Title: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on March 06, 2017, 09:53:00 PM
Lots have happened since last week.
We purchased and moved into a 8x25 travel trailer. We've looked at many 25 footers and fell in love with the one I will be writing about. The best thing is its paid for. We made up our mind that we want to stay out of debt and start living a simpler life.
Much more to follow.

Henry
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: mobile_bob on March 06, 2017, 10:50:23 PM
good job Henry!

i know small living isn't for everyone, even though "Og and his old lady" probably lived in a much smaller cave
and apparently were very happy! otherwise we wouldn't be here!

:)

bob g
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: LowGear on March 07, 2017, 03:40:08 AM
The private dream of so many of us out here in possessionland. 

What Benefits, Advantages and Features put you over the edge on your new home?  Got photos or links?  It looks like ag zoned land in Hawaii may be coming into a tiny house arena so I'm looking for ideas.

Congratulations!

Casey
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Thob on March 08, 2017, 06:52:15 PM
So... do you have plans to travel a lot, or are you staying in a "permanent" location?

What about the shop/engines/etc?  Another trailer?  Shipping container?
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: vdubnut62 on March 10, 2017, 09:22:52 PM
Henry you're a better man than I.  After a week at the lake, my 32 footer gets too small :o
Ron.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: mobile_bob on March 11, 2017, 01:32:43 PM
when you go "small" you go through several adjustments to get there

first it seems like a good idea...

then it comes down to "what the hell was i thinking"

then comes the giving in stage,  " oh well i guess i am stuck here now"

then comes "hey this isn't as bad as i thought"

and finally "hey this is really cozy" and finally...

"wow, why didn't i do this at 20 years of age"  "just think how much farther ahead i would be now"

these stages take some time, and that time adjusts to the temperament of the individual(s) involved.

remember back after ww2, the 50's?  lots of families did just fine in 900 sq/ft , where mom stayed home
dad worked, and they raised 3-5 kids... that is up to 7 people in 900 sq/ft.  and they didn't kill each other!

bob g
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on March 11, 2017, 07:13:16 PM
We shopped around for quite a while. Some 25 footers were horrible with layouts. I have to post some pictures that show the layout. A private entry to the master bedroom is very convenient. Still can have privacy when company is over.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on March 11, 2017, 08:16:08 PM
Here is the layout
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: LowGear on March 12, 2017, 12:21:30 PM
I live in a 16 by 24 foot apartment three months of the year.  You remember Pig Pen in Peanuts?  A very close cousin.    I still don't mind it but every visit I throw stuff away.  A shopping bag here and a shopping bag there - it ads up.  I've noticed when I'm at home - a normal sized house for the US - I really don't use much more of the space than I do when I'm at the apartment.  I should mention the ceilings are 6' 1" high at the apartment.  And of course I painted the walls and ceiling flat black.  

I look at these tiny houses and their whooping price tags and then look at travel trailers.  I get some of the tiny houses but the vast majority of people would simply be better served by a used Air Stream like trailer.

The two doors on your unit is also an incredible safety feature.  The house I live in now has two doors to every room except the utility room and it's 5' X 10' with the door centered on the interior wall.  Yes, the bathrooms have two doors as well.  The regular one and then a glass slider to a planting area.  The house is pre-ventilation fans.

I once saw a cube styled truck on a fairy in Washington state and though little about it until I walked past the back and there I was going across Puget Sound looking directly into a couples front room.  Amazing.  My first tiny house experience but I'm sure if I had the wits to move into small I'd go the travel trailer route as well.

Casey
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: BruceM on March 12, 2017, 07:22:45 PM
One thing to watch out for in small spaces and trailers-  watch for inverter/charger units under sitting and bed space. The EMF levels are extremely high in close proximity and has caused some serious health problems for some.  Having low magnetic fields and an absence of screaming on the Am radio between stations closer to wiring in the bedroom is particularly important.   

The Radio Shack model 12-467 AM radio is particularly good to use as a poor man's "near field sniffer" to check home wiring.   It's tuner is easily swamped by EMI.  It's still available on ebay, usually.  It will also let you hear your gadgets such as LED lights, EMI on inverter AC, dimmers, etc.

Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on March 13, 2017, 06:42:42 PM
The inverter is under the refrigerator. If it is an issue a Faraday cage might help.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: BruceM on March 13, 2017, 10:56:56 PM
Shielding of the inverter isn't as simple as putting a faraday cage around it, since all AC wiring is connected and will radiate as well.  But the near field magnetic fields (a wavelength or less distance) will be strongest near the inverter.  If it's a high frequency sine type, then welded mild steel is somewhat useful.  If it's a low frequency design,  mu-metal is needed.  In both cases, you might achieve 60% reduction, which is not enough.

Anyone who sleeps in the convertabed sofa should NOT have their head towards the refrigerator/inverter. You should NEVER sit there near the refrigerator with that inverter charger on, in my opinion.  Both AM radio and ELF magnetic field meters will show you that this is an extreme, off the scale situation.

If at all possible, I'd suggest disconnecting it entirely. At the very least,  turn it off at night.

I know several people who have had their lives destroyed by inverter/charger units in their home or RV  living space. Two of them died quite young, after years of misery. 

About the only way to find a worse situation would be to have your bedroom wall be inside a bank of smart meters in an apartment complex.






Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: LowGear on March 14, 2017, 10:39:47 PM
Hi Bruce,

Just to digress another moment from travel trailer life.  What have you heard about the micro-inverters?  One per panel.

Casey
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: BruceM on March 14, 2017, 11:03:27 PM
The current trend in grid tie solar is a very bad situation, health-wise.  Two systems have prevailed for being cheap and easy to configure.  Micro Inverters or the Buck converters at every panel.  The high frequency switching buck converters at every panel boost panel output voltage to a regulated 350VDC.  Handy and makes the inverter easier but this means you've got bad EMI sources at every panel, just like the microinverters.  You can't do a decent job of filtering at every panel because of both cost, and because there is no good high frequency ground available on a roof.  

What would have made more sense from a health standpoint was to keep the panels clean DC in series to make the voltage high enough to be practical with smaller wires, and keeping the whole roof system clean DC  by filtering that side of the inverter.  And then filter the AC side of the filter so you don't trash the entire home (and neighbor's) power with high frequency EMI.  None of your home wiring is shielded, so this is just plain stupid technically from a public health standpoint. The big plus is that at least it's off at night, but that doesn't help pre-school kids and their moms.




Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: veggie on April 20, 2017, 08:10:38 AM
Nice Henry !

Is there a bank of solar panels coming soon ?
Maybe a 2.5 kw system to offset most of your loads ?

veggie
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on May 08, 2018, 01:34:04 PM
It's been over a year and we are enjoying life more than ever.  Total expenses for lot rent and utilities in wake county NC is $5,700.00.  It is great not having to pay County and city taxes. We have never been able to save so much. I must say we never felt so free. We are not bound down like we were when owing a home. We can travel anyplace any time .
We feel less stress in life and can enjoy doing things we only dreamed about before we transitioned in our style of living. Will be posting more soon.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: glort on May 09, 2018, 07:25:21 AM
I'm more than happy to own. Can do what I want, have my home the way I want it and since moving into our new house not even 9 Months ago the property value has increased nearly $300K thanks to the desirability of the area and limited propertys available.
Stats just came out that it is the more desired are in the country. Lucky we saw the writing on the wall there.

We are looking at buying a 2nd home as an investment property.  I'll let someone else pay it off so when my wife and I are gone, we'll have something substantial to leave our Daughter. Dont want her to have to fork out every week to make someone else's kids better off than she is. In this day and age one can't get anywhere in life without having some bricks and mortar to leverage against further financial growth.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on May 09, 2018, 08:52:31 AM
Wake County NC has zoning set in place where it makes it difficult to do things as you want like we were used to years ago.Gentrification and eminent domain is running rapid in wake county and most people that lived here for generations can no longer afford living here. taxes are so high, and being being forced to hook up to city utilities is forcing most to sell because of the price to pay for hook up. And the government will force you to sell so they can continue to change the city the way they like to see it.
The rich devels from north east been coming down  belly aching
that they want things changed to their liking and have no respect for natives. They come with their money and feel they can do what they want. North Raleigh used to be such a peaceful place to live and raise a family. One thing I do love is hearing the Roosters going at it all day long. The people that owne them are outside of city limits. Some rich devels came over to me and ask if I want to sign a petition to stop such madness. I laughed and said you all moved to the wrong place and I love the noise of the Roosters from early morning till evening.
I have no respect for the rich devels coming down to change the way we live.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: LowGear on May 11, 2018, 05:37:58 AM
We have chickens.  Visitors ask how I can stand the chickens, especially at dawn or a bit before?  I reply "What chickens"?

Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on May 11, 2018, 05:54:49 AM
I love it! After a while you don't pay attention to them.

The simple life as it should be, life is good.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: mobile_bob on May 11, 2018, 07:25:46 PM
my neighbors across the street have at last count between 21 and 27 weiner dogs, and i get that a lot
"how can you stand all that barking?"

my response?

what barking!

after a while you don't hear them anymore, and after a bit longer the little buggers could give a hoot
whether i am around or not.

as long as they stay in their yard and don't come over in groups of 2 or more, i am ok with them.

bob g
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: vdubnut62 on May 26, 2018, 05:56:12 PM
Holy Crap!! 21 or 27 weiner dogs!!!!!!! I would lose my mind. Chickens on the other hand are very productive and mostly quiet animals. Well, I do have seven out in the yard, and  five guineas, so am I biased?
Ron.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Derb on May 29, 2018, 03:02:05 AM
Our neighbours in front have 2 little chiuaua (or some such spelling ::) and they go non-stop. I have always figured the other surrounding folk will sort it out. She (over the fence) was having a yarn the other day and spotted our 3 Cavalier King Charles Spaniels (doncha-know) and exclaimed she hadn't been aware we had dogs! I replied we brought dogs we knew wouldn't annoy the neighbours  :D.
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: Henry W on September 28, 2018, 08:59:38 PM
It's been a busy few weeks. Hurricane Florence has come and gone and we are fine. The first thing we did was hitch up and moved the trailer to an open area with higher elevation with no trees. The next thing was we ran  the back wheels of the Xterra on ramps to raise the back end so the inverter generator could be placed under on a platform for protection. Winds got up to around 60 mph briefly but calmed down quickly. We did get lots of rain and there was flooding but nothing like they got near Wilmington NC. We lost power for just over 30 hours. The small Yamaha 1000 watt inverter generator ran the whole time. We only used just over 1-1/2 gallons of gas. We switched over to propane for the water heater and we ran the refrigerator on propane half the time. Everything is cleaned up and put back in place and life is back to normal.  We pray for everyone that was not as fortunate and hope they can get their life back on track as quickly as possible.
Henry
Title: Re: We finally did it!
Post by: LowGear on September 29, 2018, 10:51:51 AM
Sounds great.  I first thought when I saw your new post you might be writing from the mouth of some river where your trailer landed when the water subsided. 

I was thinking that if someone with 27 weiner dogs moved in next door you could do the same thing and not need a realtor, banker and attorney to do so.

Almost worth mentioning.  Your lot rent includes taxes.  If you're keeping your habitat licensed your also paying taxes there as well.  Modest living has so many upsides and taxes so low you don't notice them is one of the nice realizations.

At 74 I'm starting to think about down sizing for the last quarter (positive thinking helps) of the game.  I don't know if I can do as big little as you but I really enjoy hearing about your wins.  Rant on brother.